VAR

I don't think it was better before.

The delays can be irritating but as time goes by they should get better at dealing with it. I'm interested to see how it fairs in the World Cup. I seem to recall it was pretty good at the recent international tournaments.

In YOUR opinion mistakes are still being made.

It's the opinion of qualified fifa referees, both on the pitch and in the var studio, that stand now. They should know the rules and have the technology to make the right calls in 99% of all cases now.

Yes some mistakes are being made with var, but very few.

Can you name 1 high profile decision it got wrong?

What is happening often is that pundits are brainwashing the fans watching on TV into thinking they are the knowledge, and that they are right. Then, just like in the spurs decision last night, they have to back down and admit that the correct decision was actually made. But it doesn't stop them moaning about it, and it spreading on social media that var isn't working. It works is nearly all cases, and correct decisions are being awarded, offline goals being ruled out, etc etc.

I’m not sure if we could expect absolute consistency from VAR - each referee will have his own interpretation of the rules on a minute level. We already know some referees will let more away than others. No issue there.

But having no insight into how they make their decisions is the maddening part. Referees at the top level should be able to talk through decisions while mic’d up. I am disallowing the goal because of x y or z, or my initial call stands because I see nothing significant in the video to change it. Also having video referees make on field decisions shouldn’t happen. They should be there to discuss with the referee but all decisions should lie with the on field ref(excluding offside as there is a technology element to that).

But now its goes from the interpretation of the ref on the field, to the interpretation of a ref in an office...

it still comes down to an individuals interpretation of the Laws of the games, and all the numerous changes.

Ref on the field should be told, "you missed something there , go to the screen and have a second look."

Goes to monitior, "yes, youre right, that was a free kick" ... "No, i dont think so, im happy with my original decision".

Ref on the field should make all the calls.

HANDBALL:

Just make it a clear decision of is it "Ball to hand - OR Hand to Ball" it was always the easier way to ref it.

None of this making body bigger, body shadow, unnatural position bullsh1t....

More controversial decisions, even with VAR, in the Madrid Celtic game.

Madrids 2nd penalty was blasted by the forward, and it was heading out for a throw-in, it was that far off target. But it hit a celtic players arm about 12 inches away. At full speed. It was definitely totally accidental, and ball to arm.

Ref went over to review it, and still gave a pen.

So it simply looks like ANY ball and arm contact now in the box is a penalty. No debate.

Oh exalted one, do share your wisdom with us mere mortals. You cannot leave such a delightfully condescending post unfinished.

VAR - not interfering with play!

I think your missing the bigger picture here,

Nobody cares who exactly where involved in the game forget about City & United here , the issues is in one the biggest games in the football calendar the official have the use of VAR & still manage to get something the so wrong its something quite worrying ,

Its showed a real lack of understanding of the game from those who are supposed to be in charge of the rules,

If it involved Leicester and Forest there'd be 10 posts about it, you know it and I know it. I'm not debating the fact the rules are too open to interpretation but the level of outrage about it in here is purely down to United being the beneficiary. To state or even imply differently is disingenuous in the extreme.

Right, so if Leicester were playing City at the weekend and got the same result under the same circumstances, the debate would still be raging 4 days later, gotcha. 😉

And the professional, paid officials have no understanding of the game and a bunch of lads on Boards.ie understand the rules better, gotcha. 😉

Its a derby with two of the top teams in the country of course that gets more chat around it ,

Its not just boards though is it, Ex refs , ex player & current ones ,ex mangers & current ones all had the same opinion that its was offside,

Should just go back to the old offside law, it would cut almost everything out, if any attacking player is closer to the goal line than the 2nd last defender then it is offside, would make it more black and white.

Even so that, what your saying is in both matches the ref & linesman both made the same call ,

So is it the ref's & linesmen who don't know the rules or the team on VAR ?

He didn't kick anyone , he tripped Malacia who deliberately ran across his running line ,In fact it was the same way Casemiro tripped Cancelo , Ref made the right call on both to just play on ,

The ref done a brilliant the weekend to be fair to him, you can't fault him for either side , The big cal lwas form VAR,

Whether it was the right call or the wrong call is completely subjective, which is why you will hear perfectly valid arguments for both sides.

Which comes back to the white elephant that is VAR. Subjective decisions have remained subjective no matter the technology so what exactly have we gained? We haven't removed the controversy, we haven't made the fans happier, we haven't made the players happier, we haven't made it any easier for the officials. There are plenty of tangible and obvious disadvantages to the use of VAR so only one question remains, why the **** is it being used?

"While they were wondering if they could, they never wondered if they should". Its embarrassing how people can't see the wood for the trees when it comes to VAR.

He clear as day trips him up ,Walker plays the ball & looks to make a run & Malaica purposely runs across him so walker trips him, nothing in it at all very similar to the Casemiro trip in Cancelo I the box where Cancelo ran across him ,

https://twitter.com/8Flavs/status/1614247651784130561?t=e9JkmNOZa5Z6Coh10MXxEg&s=19

This is the same, for me, as the Rashford incident. For Akanji, making a football decision because of the position of an opponent, read Toti. For Rashford, Salah. As someone above said, the rule is s**t. If Wolves don't get through tonight, they won't be happy. Though an away trip to Brighton isn't a fantastic reward, unless of course, Chelsea have bought most of their squad before the end of the month.