Ireland running out of accommodation for Ukrainian refugees due to surge in non-Ukrainian refugees?

By their logic, hospitals are far from full either; after all, you can squeeze people into the carpark, into toilet cubicles, into the coffee shop etc. This is the logic of this thoughtless "argument."

This guy fails to realize that the level of services each person is now entitled to has increased hundred-fold since 1860. The issue is not space per se, but the level of services that a higher population commands. If we were bringing in the brightest and the best, then that could work, sure, but welfare tourists (by definition) consume more than they produce and only exacerbate existing resource constraints.

In the UK, the money the gov spends on hotels etc for asylum seekers is taken out of their aid budget, but you could hardly expect such reasonable policy from our lot. Full and abject subservience to foreign bodies is the driving force of their policy agenda

Before you use it as an argument to suggest Government policy on immigration is the issue, I’d suggest you use it instead to argue that the lack of Government investment in public services is the underlying reason for the lack of resources Ireland has been experiencing for decades.

You probably won’t fit all that on a snazzy banner though.

So what did one of our leading public intellectuals have to say? The thrust of Fintan O'Toole's article was that the protestors actually had no issues with the refugees or their impact on wages, public services, the housing crisis etc. Rather, they are merely a shower of embittered malcontents releasing pent-up anger from the failed abortion referendum, the failure of nationalism, and the inexorable decline in Catholicism. You really couldn't make this stuff up.

Sounds like he hit the nail on the head TBH.

Add in Anti-Vax, Covd and WEF conspiracies and you have the full house. 👍️

You know nothing of Fintan O'Toole if you envisage him writing anything like that...

So the EU have been forced to act on passengers* turning up at destination airports having "lost" their own passports. They are proposing to repeal the 2004 API Directive, and replace it with two regulations. The API directive imposes an obligation on air carriers to transmit, “upon request” passenger data to the Member State of destination prior to the flight’s take-off, for flights in-bound from a third country to improve border controls and combat illegal immigration.”

API or Advanced Passenger Information is the biographical information collected by airlines at the moment of check in. This is stored in the airlines systems and sent to border control authorities of destination countries. "API data contains information which allows authorities to confirm the identity of passengers."

It looks like under the bould Helen McEntee that border control authorities of Ireland have not requested passenger API despite having the powers to do so. Is anyone surprised?

But the EU proposal is looking to make transmitting this data mandatory. it will introduce "Mandatory API data collection for the purposes of border management and combating irregular immigration on all flights entering the Union (including those travelling on business aviation and charter flights)."

According to the Dept of Justice: "It is envisaged that the regulations will be adopted by 2025. Secondary legislation will be adopted by 2028 and entry into operation in 2030. Overall, an 8 year implementation period is envisaged."

So these and similar "passengers" have another 8 years to keep on "losing" travel documents before getting off the plane.

*There are many other terms that could be used to describe these individuals, but in order not to give those who want to have this discussion shut down any possible ammunition I'm using passengers.

Well, you could, and I’d understand why you might argue that as a solution IF I thought your little group were actually operating with a shared brain cell.

I don’t think that’s the case though. Far more likely is simply the case that you’re operating under the impression you represent the people you claim to represent, when in actual fact you don’t.

That’s why it’s entirely up to you to keep chanting “Get them out!” outside refugee accommodation, like the classy bunch you are, and have Government continue to ignore you because nobody wants anything to do with you so politicians aren’t the least bit concerned about their re-election prospects, and they can continue to make silly proposals like housing refugees in plastic containers (how long do you think it’d be before numbnuts propose doing the same for everyone seeking accommodation?)…

OR, or…

You could realise that due to an increasing population, which is only going in one direction, whether by natural increase or by immigration, Government which should have been heavily investing in public services and infrastructure like schools, hospitals, etc should have gotten their finger out decades earlier, and there’s an even greater incentive and imperative upon them to do it now.

Or you could keep cribbing about refugees who aren’t using any resources and aren’t putting any pressure on public services, but they’re just unsightly in neighbourhoods which have fcukall resources and aren’t going to get any any time soon as a result of your groups efforts, never mind actually being consulted about who has the right to live in their neighbourhood.

”Ask the communities for their consent and wait until they’re prepared to handle it” 😂

What sort of la-la land must you imagine you’re living in to think ANYONE has the right to determine who their neighbours are, or whether they have the right to be consulted about refugees being accommodated in private accommodation, or being able to avail of access to public schools, public hospitals, etc? You didn’t have that right before, you’re sure as hell not entitled to it now 😒

That was an incoherent rant One Eyed Jack.

People have and always have had a right to have a say in their own communities.

If a prison or a nursing home or a direct provision was to be built beside you, you would have the right to object.

Well if I or anybody else "can't rely on Government for anything" what in the name of good f**k are my tax takings doing going to these peoples salaries and gold plated pensions for? Seriously? What is the point then? I can't rely on them? I vote and also handsomely pay for them to be the ones to ultimately lead my community, to be the ones to rely on, that's what they promise every four years, that's the game right? Or is it now something else? Where I and everybody else have to continue to pay for this mess and also shut our f**king mouth's about it too? That sounds like something else you claim to abhor Jack.

Those are good questions, and while the obvious answer is that they’re living it up on the public purse with salaries in excess of €100k while you’re cribbing about the guy who gets €200 a week and has to live in cramped accommodation with his head beside some other guys ass and praying he didn’t have the borscht for dinner (cos that stuffs like rocket fuel!), the more truthful answer is that they’re doing exactly what is expected of them by the electorate in running the country.

That doesn’t mean they have to run the country in accordance with yours or my personal preferences, but we do elect politicians on the basis of our personal preferences, so if you’re actually looking to point fingers, I’d suggest looking in a mirror.

OK.

You put forward the argument being advanced by the media, the NGOs and the opposition parties: Blame the government for the fact that the resources required to welcome these refugees don't exist.

You made the argument twice.

Both times I pointed out two issues I had with that argument. A short term one and a long term one.

You're upfront about not wanting to answer those objections.

Fair enough. We'll move on.

Why in the name of God would I defend child abusers at any level?

Is there something actually wrong with you?

Unless your next post to me is a full retraction of your scurrilous claims and an apology, don't bother.