"Green" policies are destroying this country

So the COP yearly jamborees are a load of old tosh and doesn't really understand the existential threat we are really under. The only thing for it is smaller groups meeting behind closed doors to make the real decisions.

"Surely, this would be a good place to stop, replacing the yearly media jamboree with something else. Perhaps smaller, separate Cop standing bodies would do a better job, working behind closed doors to address the key issues – energy, transport, deforestation, loss and damage, and so on."

Exxon et al, get away with breaking the rules when we're reliant on them. Every wind turbine/solar pb/ battery installation makes us less reliant on these companies.

1. Commodity Prices rarely 'reduce' (except for when they're at an unnatural peak due to some crisis or other.) Gas prices have been at historically high levels. Meanwhile the costs of installing Solar and wind are falling, while new technologies in energy storage, geothermal etc mean these costs are rapidly falling. The costs to the consumer are unlikely to fall as Energy has been heavily subsidised (oil and gas are subsidised by trillions of dollars)

1. We haven't finished building the infrastructure yet, so of course we're reliant on the old infrastructure. Your objection is like me complaining that I still have to rent somewhere to live because my new house is too wet to live in, but the new house isn't built yet and doesn't have a roof yet.

It will be difficult to get to 100% renewable energy. The last 10% will cost a lot of money. But we should absolutely be able to get to 90% carbon neutral energy and only require fossil fuels as backup within 20 years

Of course, that won't happen if we don't start the transition (properly) The Fossil fuel industry are doing everything they can to influence policy so that that transition gets delayed for as long as possible.

The longer we delay it, the higher the costs will be.

If we started acting in the 1980s we'd already be done by now and it would have been barely an inconvenience

If we wait until 2030, we'll be in a major crisis, we'll be locked into extremely damaging levels of climate change, and some countries will probably already have started geoengineering out of panic with all the additional unintended consequences that leads to

It is already well established that it is not possible to do this economically due to wind turbine and solar capacity factors alone. Aside from the lack of materials, overbuilding the generating plant is wasteful of resources. Are populations in Western Europe really going to accept economic decline due to lack of energy resources? The world will move on without us or we will invade them to get those resources.

I don't know what the world will look like after 2030. We are witnessing re-alignment of major power centers. Europe has been sucked into a war with Russia which will probably take much of the remaining decade to resolve (not just the fighting, the costs of repair and rebuild of energy infrastructure). The longer this drags on, the more resources and production are committed to it. Wars mean material resources are allocated to conflict and rationed elsewhere, these materials would otherwise be used for something more productive. Large scale war in Europe always ends with the bankruptcy of it's main protagonists. After WWII Europe had a sugar daddy in the form of the United States that provided fresh capital to rebuild and modernise using the energy from coal, oil and gas. Oil was the the big game changer in the 20th century, it it the basis of our lifestyle today. Government will not getting rid of it in 10, 20 or even 30 years

I can confidently say for certain that climate will not be a problem after after 2030, 2040 or 2050. The reasons I can say this with 100% certainty, the claims of specific dates by activists and politicians are arbitrary, the track record and skills of those making the claims are non-existent, past claims of disaster by specific dates have expired, nothing changed, and most importantly mankind has the proven ability to adapt to his environment.

It's just saying that if there hadn't been wind energy there for 34% of our electricity last year, we would have had to replace that generation with gas plants, so our gas consumption would have gone up accordingly. And with the spikey gas prices, the cost of that gas generation was particularly high in the past year (~2Bn).

Uh no, it's not just saying that. Had it done, it would have been accurate. What it said was that it saved consumers EUR 2 billion. That's a deliberate lie.

Is that not the same thing? Granted they're comparing to a fictional situation (0% wind, with 34% directly replaced by gas), but in that context it did reduce our total energy cost by 2billion.

If I go to lidl and get my milk for E2, I would still say i saved compared to getting that milk for e2.5 in dunnes. Even if I never went to dunnes in the 1st place.

Let's look at the actual "costs" and not some fictional depiction.

First up, the world is getting greener, partly due to increased CO2 in the atmosphere.

Crop yeilds are increasing due to better farming techniques, more CO2 for plants, and better fertilizers.

We've never been safer from climate related deaths

We've lifted more people out of absolute poverty since 1990 than all of human history combined

Now, tell me again how we are doing such a terrible job? It's incredibly dishonest to claim green policies are here to save us all from doom while completely ignoring the incredible human achievements that have occurred in recent times, thanks in main to cheap reliable energy.

The Potsdam institute of climate alarm (Stefan Rahmstorf, Hans Joachim Schellnhuber and Johan Rockström) spreading tipping points misinformation. Those pushing climate tipping points are evil.  They know that the effects of climate change are modest.  However, people aren’t sufficiently motivated to take the actions the catastrophists want.  Therefore they have decided to scare the population, with an impending, terrifying precipice of climate change plus they need funding from the German government. This cannot be ethical, it's not based on science and left unchallenged they are causing vulnerable people psychological harm and pushing governments to make poor decisions.

Think about it, really complex systems with huge numbers of interconnected variables, like the climate, a modest change in one single variable of median importance cannot cause more than a minor ripple. This is fundamental. Were tipping points real, then complex systems couldn’t exist because even slight deviations would plunge them into terminal conditions and life could never have evolved on earth with such an unstable foundation. The planet is just not that fragile.

I do get it.

if we didn’t have wind, more gas plants would have been needed, and at that the more expensive ones too. this would have brought the strike price up even higher, so all kWh on the grid would have been more expensive. The bid in for I SEM price for wind is very low, so the more we have, the less higher priced gas we need, so the last generator through the gate so to speak will bring a lower strike price bringing lower electricity to the market.