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Every heart string getting pulled with this rubbish from fionnan Sheehan in the Indo. Pressure on to blow the few quid in the rainy day fund on more housing.

https://www.independent.ie/opinion/comment/leo-varadkar-will-do-all-it-takes-leaving-no-stone-unturned-to-end-housing-emergency-except-touch-the-5bn-surplus-42271081.html

Health Protection Surveillance Centre (HPSC) data shows a steep rise in HIV here as new cases recorded double to 840 in the last year

• In 2021, a total of 401 cases. In 2022, 21,840 cases of HIV were notified. The majority of diagnoses in 2022 are people who were diagnosed outside Ireland. The majority of diagnoses are in people aged 25-44 years.

They state the contributing factor in the steep rise was down to the increase in socialization since the lifting of Cv19 restrictions. But they fail to make reference to the mass influx of asylum seekers from areas in the world with higher levels of the disease. Ukraine has one of the world's highest HIV incidence rates, >13,000 new infections a year, 2nd highest prevalence in Europe & Central Asia

The corporations are buying up a lot of the property.

I’d say there’s going to be absolute bedlam in the country even before the next election. I’d say it’s almost certain to get ugly unless some sort of sense prevails. Uneasy times ahead

I think if it continues at current pace through 2023 and we also happen to see a recession along with it you’ll get major protests. Can’t go any other way in those circumstances.

It is very strange indeed that these people who consider themselves on the "left" are doing the bidding for governments, international banks and global corporations.

You’re leaving out the part of the article where it says:

"There were 21,783 people benefitting from the EU's Temporary Protection Directive included in the Live Register figures for December 2022, an increase of 2,283 from November 2022," he said.

But as for the number of foreigners in employment in Ireland, it’s about 95% according to data from the CSO, Department of Trade, Enterprise and Employment, and the European Migration Network -

The survey data shows that for April-June 2022, non-Irish citizens accounted for just under half a million (495,100) persons currently classified as ‘in the labour force’. This represents approximately 18.5% of the total labour force in Ireland during that period. Of these, nearly 95% were in employment, with the remainder unemployed. (This is similar to the percentage of Irish citizens in employment versus unemployed.) This is an increase of about 72,000 non-Irish citizens in employment from April-June 2021, with about 10,000 fewer unemployed.

https://emn.ie/migrants-in-the-labour-force-in-2022/

The spiel you refer to of lads coming over to do the jobs Paddy won’t do was never a thing, it has always been that foreigners are necessary to fill the gaps in employment, regardless of what Paddy is doing, though an unemployment figure of 70% for Paddy doesn’t speak well of his work ethic 🤔

Good thing then really that we have 95% employment among foreigners to pick up the slack and becoming taxpayers to cover the enormous costs of housing all those Paddys who are unemployed 🤨

You speak of the real world j and what you imagine Yanks with disposable income will and won’t want to do and the impact on the tourism industry. Meanwhile in the real world, my young lad went away for a hotel break this weekend and I wasn’t at all concerned about the hotel being used to accommodate refugees. Y’know the thing I was more concerned about? Gobshìtes like this idiot and others like him would carry out their threat -

https://www.irishexaminer.com/news/arid-41046959.html

Most of them would be retired I would have thought.

Who knows maybe sharing a hotel with somalis, Pakistanis, syrians etc could appeal to some yanks. The ones it doesn't appeal to can sod off to Scotland instead!

I am, because they’re not. Even from the figures you cited, they’re not. If 20% of the population is foreign, and less than 20% are on the Live Register, then they are under-represented on the Live Register.

In the same way, if the other 80% of the population are Irish, and 70% of people on the Live Register are Irish, the Irish are underrepresented on the Live Register.

It doesn’t speak well for Paddys work ethic that being born and raised in Ireland, they still represent the vast majority of people on the Live Register, which is basically a tally of the number of people in the population who are available for work.

It doesn’t take account of people who are not available for work, who are not on the Live Register, and therefore they don’t qualify for unemployment benefits or assistance. People for example like the nearly half a million women who are working in the home -

https://www.cso.ie/en/releasesandpublications/ep/p-wamii/womenandmeninireland2016/socialcohesionandlifestyles/

445,000 women, and about 9,000 men, according to the 2016 census.

You’re going to ignore the point I made earlier then?

You’re leaving out the part of the article where it says:

"There were 21,783 people benefitting from the EU's Temporary Protection Directive included in the Live Register figures for December 2022, an increase of 2,283 from November 2022," he said. 

But as for the number of foreigners in employment in Ireland, it’s about 95% according to data from the CSO, Department of Trade, Enterprise and Employment, and the European Migration Network -

The survey data shows that for April-June 2022, non-Irish citizens accounted for just under half a million (495,100) persons currently classified as ‘in the labour force’. This represents approximately 18.5% of the total labour force in Ireland during that period. Of these, nearly 95% were in employment, with the remainder unemployed. (This is similar to the percentage of Irish citizens in employment versus unemployed.) This is an increase of about 72,000 non-Irish citizens in employment from April-June 2021, with about 10,000 fewer unemployed. 

https://emn.ie/migrants-in-the-labour-force-in-2022/

The recent increase in the representative amount of foreign born people on the Live Register is due to the increase in the number of foreign born people registering as available for work. However, previously it was always around the 18% mark, which corresponds to the number of foreign born people in the population.

Your attempt was basically to suggest that foreigners are coming here to take advantage of welfare benefits and all the rest of it, but it’s simply not true, as 95% of foreign born people are in employment, similar to the figures for Irish people among the population.

The reason I gave the figures for the number of people who are not available for work is to demonstrate that you were presenting a misleading picture based upon manipulating statistics to suit your purposes, ie - your claim that anyone said foreigners were coming over to do the jobs Irish people wouldn’t do, and that the housing costs must be enormous on the taxpayer. You neglected to mention that 95% of those people who are foreign born, are also taxpayers.

Yeah don't buy what he said there either, Boards was fairly reflective of the abortion and SSM ref as far as I recall. The SSM ref passed at 62% which wasn't as high as expected.