Harry and Meghan - OP updated with Threadbanned Users 4/5/21

Knauf & the Sussex's discussed the book. Not the Sussex's and Scobie. The Sussex's have no idea what Knauf told Scobie. The brief they gave Knauf was to clear up any background information so that it was accurate.

It would have been in Knauf's interests to say that they had been given security training since that would have been part of his job to arrange it.

Edit: By the way, the Washington Post is just another rightwing magazine that doesn't believe in climate change and perpetuates falsehoods in their anti-immigration, racist rag. For example, they were one of the outlets that published an article claiming that there were prayer rugs* scattered all over the southern US border, which of course was a lie.

*prayer rugs = code for muslims.

A recent example for the scale , Eamonn Ryan - pathetic. Eamonn Ryan with a pedalling protection officer - beyond pathetic!

That's laugh out loud hilarious! What a tool.

On this, Daniel Hannan really is a dope. The rise of his "star" to being a mouthpiece for Brexit and his continuing right wing bolloxology really does illustrate that how rather than what you know still matters most in Britain.

The best description I've yet seen of this clown? Is that he is never knowingly correct about anything. A poor politician, a poor student of history and bloviator akin to Boris when comes to political BS. A man who thinks that trade with the rest of the world on WTO rules was better than Britain in the EU.

You can take on city hall if that’s what rocks your boat but really you need to at least see an outside chance of victory- without King Charles’ support, (I.e the head of the monarchy and RF) Harry doesn’t have a hope in hell of changing anything - can he not see that?

Also his quote around William making it clear that William and Kate’s children were not his responsibility, was a bit creepy if I’m honest- talk about sticking your nose in where it shouldn’t be in the first place.

Its also a moving target. Its a "crusade" with no finish line. The phone hacking case he is part of with some other celebrities might be one victory if they can prove their case (which is doubtful, unless they actually have proof, and not Harry's usual claims of things with no specifics). But even then one small victory which sends some unscrupulous journalists or paps to jail for historic crimes (it could be claimed its all been cleaned up since) is not an overarching victory over the tabloid press which will continue to splash every small detail about their lives on the front pages as long as it sells. Charles and William don't need that hassle in their lives, they actually live in the UK and need the tabloid press on side to a certain extent. Its been explained ad nauseum over the past few months, it is what it is because it needs to be. If you poke the bear it will turn around and roar which is exactly what has happened to H&M. The best way to stay off the front pages is to stop feeding it. But I don't think they want to stay off the front pages. They just want to control the narrative. And that's why I don't agree with Harry and they are viewed as hypocritical.

Along the same lines, Harry claimed in the Stephen Colbert interview that the most damaging thing to be reported from his book, ie his own words, was the spin the media put on the infamous 25 kills. So what he appears to want is to dictate how his words are being understood by whoever reads them. Sure there were some screaming headlines, but there were also many non tabloid news outlets who reported the words, factually and many people who interpreted them negatively, including myself. If he is worried about being mis interpreted then the obvious approach would be to think twice before saying something so contraversial. But in typical Harry mode, its everyone elses fault for mis interpreting what he said. That is the level of control he wants over his own story which is bonkers. He demands that we all see things the way he does and if you dont you are part of the problem.

But in typical Harry mode, its everyone elses fault for mis interpreting what he said

If anyone actually read the book and indeed that chapter instead of the tabloid screeching nonsense and still misunderstood what he was trying to convey, then maybe reading isn't for them.

You'd swear he was the first person who has had combat service to write about the experiences.

One of the best selling autobiographies of that ilk is called American Sniper FFS!

People losing their shít because people writing about war won't sanitise it for their feeble sensitivities is beyond remedial.

But but but, he has made himself a target!!! 🙄

PSTD and suicides relating to veterans.

"Combat guilt" is one of the main reasons for the two.

The reason is got the round of applause is America has a massive problem with combat veterans taking their own lives, over 40 a day apparently.

Do you mean the Washington Examiner not the Washington Post? I think the Post is pretty respected (Watergate etc)?

Very good point.

Recollections may vary (!) but they were all over the media that first year, during covid. I know because I was reading it constantly with very little else to do.

All guaranteed to get them exposure......the snippy retort about the queen not owning the word royal; having to shut down Sussex Royal and start Archewell; a Travelyst event guaranteed to get attention given their penchant for private jets; their return to the UK for their final engagements; the stunning photo of them in the rain her in the blue dress; they took the case against the associated papers/MoS that summer for publishing the letter; they kept their security till end of March then moaned about it being taken away via Scobie; Scobie was constantly putting out PR on their behalf; the rememberance day phot stunt with their photographer; conveniently papped pictures of them doing charity work; endless zooms with this charity or that one making social media.

They know the game - you put something out there = the press will comment = the tabloids will pick it apart according to whatever narrative they are currently spinning. It was not their first rodeo. They constantly played the PR game.

If I am to understand you correctly you are saying that Charles held Harry's hand for the camera?

I'm sorry but this is just conspiracy theory nonsense.

Charles has been in front of the camera whenever he goes outdoors since forever.

You cannot seriously believe he plays the cameras to that degree?

If he does he wouldn't make such a gesture so obvious.

Honestly if that is what Harry thinks then clearly he's paranoid.

And who published the book first to start all that nonsense...