NI Dec 22 Assembly Election

I am not sure why you are giving my vote such an inquisition. I can’t actually think of any way they can do damage. Our system won’t let one party pass stuff without the ‘others’ agreeing. So you are getting a bee in your bonnet about nothing. My vote for them this time around with be to ensure stormont is not reestablished. That’s the only thing I can think any ni party has the power to do.

so I am supporting them to do that and nothing else - unless you can tell me some negative impact they can make ?

Im not giving you an inquisition im just refusing to let you off saying your happy to vote for the DUP but don't support the majority of their policies and thus trying to absolve yourself of the guilt by association for any of the pretty dreadful stuff they say and get up to.

The only reason it might be feeling like an inquisition is your starting to realise how ridiculous your argument is and you've no defence for it. I gave you a chance to admit the truth in my last post and ill post the same thing again to see if you will be honest for once.

Just admit you looked at the DUP and made a calculation that you were happy for them to potentially follow through on the stuff you disagree with as long as they definitely follow through on the stuff you agree with.

Ill give an example to start the ball rolling in your head, is the DUPs position on the protocol more important to you than their position on abortion and are you willing to ignore the latter to achieve the former? Or do you in fact support their position on abortion?

Not sure why you're having a go at Downcow for them giving a vote to the DUP. It's a perfectly rational decision for a northern unionist to vote for the DUP if they think it's in their own best current interests.

Id really appreciate if people stop twisting my words as ive not once had a go at them for voting for the DUP im pointing out their hypocrisy for saying they vote for the DUP but don't support most of what they stand for, because by voting for anyone you are tacitly supporting everything they stand for whether you like it or not.

Yes thats what I said but its not what from my reading Downcow is arguing. They are trying to pretend to themselves and others that by voting for the DUP they are blameless or not at fault for anything else the DUP do apart from their stance on the protocol.

You disagree with some of what the Greens stand for, as everyone likely does no matter who they vote for, but do accept that what you disagree with will possibly be done and you have therefore tacitly supported it being done by voting for them.

Actually abortion is one of the few things that I find it very difficult to take any position on. I find it a very uncomfortable subject and probably disagree with both extremes.

but tell how the dup can affect the abortion question? You a being a bit like francies last post ie they are going to do terrible things but nobody can give me any examples of anything they can affect.

So why vote for anyone...why bother?

So your argument boils down to you support them and things like their anti abortion policy, homophobic bigotry, their troglodytic stance on climate change and creationism but its okay because they cant actually do anything about them?

Again vote for whoever you want but stop trying to delude yourself and us about what voting for them actually means.

I think it's fair to say from previous posts that @downcow aligns with the DUP on flags, Irish language, legacy issues, parades, etc. The surprise is he isn't voting for them before now.

Now you are starting to catch up. That’s pretty close.

Well that is an incredible position. You have a party rising in the south who are unapologetic about murder, intimidation, torture, rape, child abuse etc, as long as it is carried out by the paramilitary gang who regarded them as their political wing. They stand at memorials to sectarian killers on a weekly basis. They hunt for justice for one side and demand ‘truth’ from the other. They have senior members who have committed heinous crimes, etc, etc, etc.

but yeah, the DUP are the only extremists on the island!

we really are going in circles now.

just be clear with me. Are you suggesting that the huge number of people who vote sf north and south believe that the murder of my civilian neighbour was justified and that the murder of children and babies should not be condemned outright?

if you answer is yes, then I can’t accuse you of hypocrisy in your statements about me. If you answer is no then……….

ps if your answer is yes, and you are correct, then we are all in big trouble

And attempt by undemocratic means to impose it on everyone else.

The very definition of bigoted religious fundamentalism.

You shared your outrage about the DUP. So goose, hanger and all that.

actually I don’t disagree that that the DUP are further along the ‘biggoted religious fundamentalist’ line than most parties in ni, but your unwillingness to see context and to admit the bigotry and prejudice of swathes of republicanism is glaring.

There is no party that has religiously motivated policy akin to the DUP on this island.