Dublin Airport New Runway/Infrastructure.

So how were those 90 degree turns approved if the original SIDs were designed to only have slight right headings after takeoff?

Were departing aircraft just being allowed shortcuts to the beginning of their routings to save a couple of minutes and some fuel?

I don't recall reading about or hearing of any reasons given for aircraft not following the original approved SIDs when the controversy blew up

but maybe there was a valid reason? Still it all sounds a bit vague as to how such an anomaly transpired.

Worth pointing out as well that the North runway when used for Easterly departures only has a 15° divergence in conjunction with a straight ahead go around on the South runway. So, the divergence doesn't need to be 30°, never mind 70° for anything to do with safety of go arounds.

Here's that strange half figure eight route, from a departure 5 minutes ago. Can anyone explain the rationale for that?

Have a read so you can stop spoofing. The type of operation you are suggesting, departures off the north and landing on the south will NOT happen.

10 left is the dominant landing runway. The missed approach off 10 left turns 30° away from the departure track off 10 right. Read ICAO DOC 9643 part 4.2.1

The 10 left SID turns 15° away from the SID off 10 right as ICAO LAW requires 15° separation from a SID off a parallel runway.

All of which is contained in the ICAO document above.

Check out the MOPAS SID off 25 left in Barcelona. Earlier turn, sharper turn, followed by a massive reversal of course.

Well, I wasn't consulted on any of this. What vote are you talking about? It seems pretty strange to ask residents whether 30 degree and 75 degree turns are a great idea. Surely nobody wants departing aircraft over their house. Or do some people want to be able to look down on their own house when flying off or something? Doesn't sound likely to me.

I’m not here to hold hands and make friends.

All the facts are in my post. You are referring to a use of runway that will never happen at Dublin.

The SIDs only need to diverge 15° from each other.

The SID of 10 right and the Missed approach off 10 left need to diverge by 30° and they do. What you are talking about is a scenario that will never happen as planning permission does not allow the runways to be used in that way.

Try reading posts before you respond. All of the above is in my first post.

Pilot overshot the initial turn, and then realigned with the fly-by waypoint located north of Oldtown, before turning to the waypoint above Rush. It's actually aligned with the SIDs

Yes, it looks like they are trying to keep to the SID. Here's another one from a few minutes ago. Dublin to Toronto which is currently heading directly West but in an effort to keep to the SID is going North East for a bit. It's pointless unless the point is to annoy as many residents as possible in Kilsallaghan, Rolestown and Oldtown.

See my previous posts and links for answers. Though I don’t believe you actually read any of them and won’t bother to read or try understand them.

I link my posts with facts, I’ve yet to see any facts from you just incorrect opinions.

Hard to take this sort of thing seriously, seems every crackpot has to have their spake

As it happens I went to that meeting. I wasn't able to stay for all of it, but I heard the lady who you are referring to (who lives in Ridgewood, Swords) and I don't think she said "low-flying aircraft" which makes it sound a bit crackpot. She was clearly referring to the exhaust from departing aircraft at full throttle around 900 metres from the estate she lives in. I've definitely noticed the smell of aviation fuel driving along the road there, so it's not hard to imagine with wind conditions, it would be noticeable where she lives.

I think it was another resident of Boroimhe in Swords (also less than 1km from the runway) who said his windows were rattling. I'd well believe it.

Looking at maps and how much closer these estates are to the new runway, compared to other housing is to the old one, it looks to me like the current arrangements (with the North runway preferred for departures) needs to be reviewed.

Departing aircraft do not “take off on full throttle”.

Times change, progress has to happen, infrastructure has to be built. Its something that people have to accept, because we can not contuine where vital projects are held up for years upon years by legal challenges and complaints. The runway has been built, it has opened, Dub will never return to the operations that it has used since mid 80s, time for people to accept that and move on.

You can be damn sure that the arrivals will not be coming in over Malahide on 28R as a standard and 28L being the departure runway.

Swords is beside the airport as Santry is on the other side. Living near the airport will have noise at different times. And if they think they are rattling now, wait until they have the morning departures this summer. One behind the other from the get go.

New estates close to an airport there longer.shocker