The Tommy Tiernan Show Thread - Mod warning, see OP

You don't get to define other people's thought processes.

The black woman was offended.

How do I know?

Because she said so.

As for racist in a roundabout way you really took a wrong turn there.

Yes different strokes, the rush to social media by offended Irish people when a sky sports news presenter said the Irish ladies football team would benefit from education on history of the the IRA was one such example.

"Boomer in this context refers more to those angry and frustrated middle-aged men who seem to spend their days on Twitter, "

Middle aged men aren't Boomers though, Tiernan is hardly a frustrated Middle aged man either he seems to be now in his purple patch.

The issue is that some younger people cannot just let things go like this woman, all sorts of horrible things are said about white Middle aged men today but nobody calls that out

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Not really, people are entitled to find things offensive. Wasn't that I was referring to.

I said:

I wasn't talking about people in general being offended by something.

It was different, because people were getting offended on the teams behalf and Unionists behalf.

I was talking about a person being offended directly and their first recourse or cure for that is to head to Insta or FB or Twitter.

My reading off the joke was that he was walking around the African plains and he saw a lot of Dublin Taxi drivers, inferring that there is quite a few Black taxi drivers, which there is, and that you would see Black people in Africa. At the same time, I can see the train of thought where it could be perceived as racist, which is why the person felt the need to walk out.

It wasn't a particularly funny joke and his act wouldn't have suffered if it had been left out. But he's told a lot more offensive ones, which were a lot funnier in fairness. I've seen Tommy life quite a few times. Sometimes he's brilliant, really funny, and sometimes he stinks the place out.

Comedy is a subjective thing though. I nearly walked out of a Dave McSavage show. He told one "joke" which was vile, and not in the slightest bit funny, and I've quite a dark sense of humour. I stayed until the end, but vowed never to watch him again.

Where was the outrage…..emmm …. A small sample below involving liveline and two politicians

https://www.irishexaminer.com/news/arid-20076077.html

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/politicians-are-not-amused-by-disabled-jokes-26105305.html

OK fair enough the next question I would ask were the individuals complaining self styled 'activists' using the furore to look for attention, or were they people looking for offence on others behalf?

I myself would be of a cohort that people would be uneasy about making jokes about these days. But I make fun of myself self depreciation.

In my view comedy when done correctly should mean that no group should be immune from a comedy skit. Ricky Gervais does it superbly for example. The day that any 'group' is left out of any comedy skit is the day that that group is 'left out' of society IMO. They are no longer part of the fun/craic or humour.

Naturally this is subjective, but Irish people in particular use slagging/humour as a form of inclusion. To be removed from it the worst form of exclusion in my opinion. As suddenly a group/cohort is viewed as 'other' and is viewed as not being material for stand up/comedy/craic. It is a slippery slope.

I have no idea, you'd have to have more information on each of them.

I stated what I would or would not do if I was offended/hurt by a joke and it wouldn't be to head to FB, Insta or Twitter.

It is 'different' because I can't possibly know the motivations of all those who commented.

Jesus, you are struggling a bit here...no?

I am struggling since you wouldn’t describe why the difference of the two situations mattered. Now you are saying it’s different because you don’t know the motivations of the people on social media in the Uptheragate. So thank you, you hadn’t mentioned that before so we are making progress. You had previously said the difference was the people in uptheragate were offended on behalf of the player/team. So you seemed to understand their motivations 20 minutes ago but ok.

what do you need to know about motivations? Why are those motivations key in this important “difference” you cited between the social media reaction to Tiernan’s situation to Uptheragate?

It wasn't angled to be racist. And btw there's plenty of jokes about travellers, different nationality stereotypes, etc. and no really cares. It's comedy.

This woman's goal is to make agenda's out of this because that's what keeps her in a job. That or/and she's actively looking to be offended.

She is probably trying to breath oxygen back into this in the light of what happened Jeremy Clarkson. She is trying to sleigh the big beast and make a name for herself, like the trophy hunters in the African savannah killing the big lions and tigers