The Tommy Tiernan Show Thread - Mod warning, see OP

Tiernan acknowledged how it could be seen as racist or offensive.

You see it as racist and others don't. Fact.

Emer O'Neill will be on with Claire Byrne this morning on her radio show, to express her outrage.

Is she trying to getting Tiernan cancelled? He has publicly apologised, what else does she want him to do?

She was invited on I imagine. She should refuse to accept invites you think? For what reason should she refuse to speak about it?

trying to get him cancelled seems to be a strange interpretation . She spoke well of their private conversation on newstalk yesterday from the reports I’ve seen though I’ve not heard it yet.

Might be just me, but I have been offended/hurt by things people have said and rushing onto social media has never been my first, second or even third impulse.

Different strokes for different folk I suppose.

Kind of a different scenario that. Sky didn't directly offend those people. They took offence on behalf of the team.

I am talking about the offended person heading immediately for social media.

i don’t see the immediate evidence of why that matters. If your interpretation is true and they rushed to Twitter because someone else was offended rather than they themselves it’s sounds even less meaningful.

Finally someone who posted the joke. Personally I think it is close to bone and many of today’s culture would term it as racist.

But I would argue it plays up to the stereotype that all/majority taxi drivers are black/non white Irish.

And I would argue that Tommy was making fun of a racist stereotype rather than been racist itself.

Because statistically no way are the majority of Dublin taxi drivers working in Dublin are black. That would be a very strange statistical anomaly which does not stack up. However, to think in such a manner you have to think nuanced - many don’t.

There used to be a British sitcom in the 70’s called ‘love thy neighbour’. Nowadays not shown - as viewed as racist. I watched it online to see what the fuss was about. But time after time the white bigot/racist was made fun of and loses by the end of the episode. And his black neighbour is the one who ‘wins’. But to watch it like that you have to have a nuanced thought process. Many in Today’s society don’t do so.

As others have said Tommy is not very funny. A guy who gives the occasional odd interview with interesting viewpoints at times.

But I have to ask where was the furore about Tommy when he slagged off Travellers and the disabled etc?

I remember a black comedian from Nigeria who used to be on Podge and Rodge. He had a great on going Joke ‘they’ are coming over here taking OUR jobs. The fellas name escapes me - big fella with a beard. Used to do stand up as well.

So the rule is only because he is black he is allowed to make fun of a racist trope?

Tonmy is just a bit of a harmless confident eejit who perhaps despite or because of this - has managed to carve out a career for himself in Irish entertainment.

He has shown in his interviews he takes people as he finds them. Would engage with anyone for an auld chat.

You said that people these days rushed to social media to document being offended. I just put forward uptheragate as an example of this. You took issue with that because you seem to be implying that it’s ok to be offended on behalf of people and go to social media about that but the others like emer’s offence is less worthy of being documented on social media.

just confused

And then you said that Uptheragate was “different” for a kind of strange reason that didn’t make much sense. I didn’t/don’t understand that difference you refer to carrying any importance.

do you think Emer running to social media after being offended is as/less/more worthy than the Irish people who ran to social media to express outrage over the Irish team member being asked about education of the IRA’s history?

Who cares if a "black woman" is offended, offence is taken not given, its not my fault tommy may have led them up the garden path but he didn't put any images in their head, it's their problem their go too place is to find offence, in fact I find it offensive that she took offence to something contrived entirely in ger own head, Where's my pity party

I was talking about what 'I' would do or not do.

It's not that difficult to grasp.

gonna have to do a Paxman…is the outrage expressed by Irish people on Twitter over the sky presenter’s comments that education being beneficial to the Irish team carry more or less or the same validity as Emer’s expressed offence taken by TT’s joke?

So you can’t give an opinion on what was more worthy….even though you deliberately posted to say that the outrage over UptheRagate was “different”. Odd to make a post like that if it was meaningless.