Jacinda Ardern to step down as New Zealand PM

I thought you said you were done discussing this with me but here you are back again, pretending that simple questions are statements. I've never known anyone to get so animated about a question. At least you quoted me this time, so it's clear what you are referring to.

The fact is that you stated that New Zealand has contraception would suggest that she should have used it to avoid pregnancy. Golden girl is correct to make the analogy of the old man have interview panel, if you expressed that opinion on a selection committee today about a female candidate and it ever came to light, she could rightly sue you, it is gender discrimination, given that the issue is female specific and as I stated before , there are reproductive rights.

I asked you if you could provide evidence that her 6 week maternity leave affected her performance in the job but nothing yet.

You miss the point, yet again. Did you edit your post? Replace your text with 'sorry' or 'deleted'? NO.

So, either you enjoy being wrong, or lack the character to admit when you are.

And, take a moment. Did you really believe what you posted, that a Supreme Court Judge in New Zealand would have written what you quoted? I only looked into it, because 2 seconds after reading what you wrote, my first thought was, "This is a very serious charge and I strongly doubt a Judge would've written that into the record, even in New Zealand"

Did such a thought cross your mind? Or are you so drunk on the anti-vaxx kool aid you don't see it

So, which is it? Lacking in character, deluded, both?

? Not sure what you mean above tbh , but yes, internet and lack of control over hate speech and trolling is a major factor . There are people as one can see here every day who swallow any old sxxxe that others post without reading examining it or having the basic faculty of discrimination, and it is regurged on every forum without another thought for what damage it may do to anybody or anything else.

Just because you say you take no notice of this does not mean it is not happening , everywhere.

Even go look at reports in the main news re an Irish Senator this week, and a host of others vilified on social media , attacks on their homes and families.

Jacinta Ardern was one who was trolled and vilified unmercifully, no matter what she did . Nobody deserves that sort of misery.

Now I agree with honest regulated debate where everybody is entitled to their own opinion, and I have crossed swords with other posters who disagree with me here everyday , but amicably mostly .

And I agree that politicians and public figures deserve to be called out for wrong same as everyone else.

But the main phrase here , is " honest , regulated debate " . Not throwing out any old sxxxe just because that is one's opinion and one feels one can say whatever one likes on an anonymous forum .

Late to this discussion and haven't read the previous pages.

My 2c is that her tenure was only average. Her legacy will be that she was a young, female head of state and that broke some long established glass ceilings. But what she actually did in office wasn't all that spectacular.

I'd compare it to Obama's time in the WhiteHouse. It was a monumental shift to have a black man as president of the USA and he was brilliant to achieve that. But his presidency was nothing spectacular.

That said, Arden (and Obama), will be remembered favourably in the history books for plotting the course for others to follow.

Chris "spread your legs" Hipkins will replace her.

I've got a mug in work with that quote printed on it in our covid warning scheme 😅

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/world/2021/aug/23/spread-your-legs-new-zealand-makes-hay-with-covid-ministers-gaffe

absolute mental behaviour here @Igotadose

I never mentioned a court case - I mentioned her tv interview where she smiled like a maniac with delight at a 2 tier society. I quoted a post to agree with their description of her ,

If anything I think too much so your argument is lame as f .

try harder.

What glass ceilings did she break?

NZ already had Helen Clark and Jenny Shippley as prime ministers.

Jenny Shipley broke the glass ceiling not the beloved Jacinda of the Western chattering media classes.

Fine. Lies are good with you. Good to know.

And, as this might be a bit of a challenge for you, but I've not mentioned the PM of New Zealand in this thread at all. Not once. I've only chimed in about the outright lie you seem thrilled about. Shame so many propagandists like yourself have to resort to lies to attempt to make points.

The child required blood, but the parents request of guaranteed unvaccinated donor blood could not be done as the transfusion service wouldn't do such screening. Court decided hospital was right to go ahead with transfusion needed.

Great to see Sepuloni as Deputy PM.

In the old days glass ceiling was about women achieving positions of power, it didn't apply to age.

Using your definition could we not also state Biden broken a glass ceiling.

Being a woman of child-bearing age is significant, as some vile comments on this thread testify.