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I disagree with that, he made fair points and i doubt you would hear different in the Ukrainian leadership.

He is saying that their will be a savage price for Ukraine to pay in lives fighting to retake towns, Ukraine is willing to pay that price, it has no choice.

It's why Russia will never take Kyiv, would 500k good men even hold it, not for long.

I was posting to stop comparing Zelensky to the pos of Churchill. Maybe you’re just a hypocrite who picks and chooses which evil men he likes and dislikes where as I call out all the scum like Putin and Churchill for what they are. Funny you never quoted the guy who never shuts up about Churchill. Quite telling. Still salty about being wrong, I would have thought wiki was right up your street.

Interesting point from this guy (in a longer thread). Russia never 'negotiates' at the conclusion of a war and always acts like a criminal / terrorist state, even after the fighting has ended.

Putin loves people fighting, he knows he won't last long if people start thinking. Sadly the Russia people are brainwashed, and thinking is something they can't do for themselves

Disagree or agree doesn't really change anything .

The Ukrainans aren't planning to let's push across a front 1300km long front

they set out to retake karkhiv - this they achieved despite experts on here saying it couldn't be done, they then moved on to Kherson the cut the Russians supply and logistics lines with surgerical precision,they have secured and reenforceed their lines and defensive positions, again the expert's on here said they couldn't take Kherson, Russia is entrenched,mines ,the greatest loss of life since WW1 , again the expert's on here were wrong,

Now it's oh I believe they got lucky well they didn't really fight,the Russians made a tactical withdrawal therefore the Ukrainans didn't win ,I predicted no they didn't predict it .

But that won't stop them claiming otherwise.

Whether you take a town or bypass it depends on who holds it & what threat they pose. Pockets will soon get isolated & surrounded. It's easier to let them starve than try to take them. You don't hold up a rapid advance & get bogged down especially when you are in your own country.

Wagner convicts(aka fodder) aren't present on all fronts. It could well be 5-1 in Bakhmut/Soledar but not across the front.

Ukraine has been on the attack in Kherson and around Svatove and Kreminna for months. As you pointed out the defenders have the advantage so the UA are probably taking pretty heavy loses there.

Your ability to misconstrue a post is truly incredible.

Up to 10-1 now? How is the front line stable with 10:1 kill ratio? The Ukrainians should be in Moscow at this stage. Ye are just taking random stats and jumping to all sorts of conclusions.

One thing that probably is probably affecting the stats is the low value that Russians seems to place on lives. Far more Russians that are injured are likely die. This is probably pushing up the kill ratio and skews the casualties ratio.

The tactics required massive mistakes from Russia. Could that happen again? Of course, but you shouldn't base your strategy on it.

Because it would be incredibly stupid to do it unless they have no other choice? If Germany had agreed to send the Leopard to Ukraine the only thing that would happening right now is the training of Ukrainians on Leopards. What is happening right now? The training of Ukrainians on Leopards. So German's indecision might have no effect(or at least a limited effect if Poland is training more than 14 crews) on the deployment of the tanks - assuming that they do agree in he coming weeks.

If Germany decides against it, which I don't think they will, then I am sure Poland will push ahead.

Rapidly followed by random experts on here telling us ,oh they didn't achieve much really,

,Donegal is clearly obsessive about Churchill. Leave him to it, just ignore and move on.

Months? I love the optimism Bitcoin, and I’ve love to see it pan out this way, but months isn’t realistic. Couple of years, maybe, but not months. That said, I would be delighted to be wrong there.

The Russians certainly seem to be aware, given their frequent visits.

I've been following this thread for a while and would question there being a "pro-orc" camp at all. A large large majority here are clearly in favour of a Ukrainian victory. You then have the odd person actually leaning the other way (rare), but most who are labelled "putinbots" etc. are usually just disagreeing with someone when they are labelled such, and I would bet are really disagreeing to be contrary.

There definitely isn't a battle for minds, this thread is pro-ukrainian with a handful of regular gatekeepers ready to "putinbot" their next opposing view.

I remember that. Even did some kind of Simpsons joke about at the time :P

Suppose we should give a shout-out to the lads at Orwell Rd. at this stage. At least they try…very poorly

The orc horde are only capable of launching human wave attacks at this stage. Even the Ukrainian commanders are shocked at just how much meat the orcs were willing to throw at them.

Do you really think they are in a position of strength by doing this?

The orcs are well past the stage of catastrophic losses and nothing can save them. China are not going to step in. There are not 200k experienced and trained soldiers who can readily be mobilized. There are no tank factories in the Urals producing hundreds of tanks a week (they are lucky to produce 200 a year).

Sooner rather than later a Ukraine counter offensive is coming. Just like in Kherson and Kharkiv there will be a sudden and dramatic orc collapse. It'll be sped up by the fact that Ukraine have a lot of new toys that they never had before.