The Tommy Tiernan Show Thread - Mod warning, see OP

Callan wouldn’t be fit to carry drinks to Rosenstock.

Both of their current material is very poor, let’s face it, it’s an outdated form of comedy now anyway. But at least Rosenstock sounds like the people he’s trying to impersonate, Callan has about 3 voices he can pull off, his Michael D being the best of them, the rest he is very poor at.

Peak Rosenstock, 20 plus years ago, he had good material and could excellently pull off 90% of the voices he tried. You would laugh out loud listening to him numerous times a week and you never knew what he’d come out with. We’re currently in peak Callan now (or maybe already past it) and he has yet to come anywhere close to anything Rosenstock could do. Maybe it’s his writers that are to blame but surely Callan has some input to the writing, or should have figured out by now to hire better writers, so he has to take some of the responsibility.

The satirist v impressionist statement is rubbish too, look at Callans Twitter, the first word he used to describe himself is impressionist. If Callan had been around in the early 2000’s he’d never have got a look in as Rosenstock would have wiped the floor with him.

When Rosenstock comes up with a song, he regularly strikes gold. Some of the more recent FOG stuff (O'Gara, O'Connell and Quinlan in a band) are brilliant, while he had other classics through the years too (Dry your eyes Becks, If I was a Roy, any Jose number). My personal favourite was 'I Think I Better Leave Right Now' when Keane left United (still know the words off by heart).

Callan has never made me chuckle to that extent.

The controversy is not going to go away, I can see Tommy having to go and do some sort of cultural awareness course and deep spiritual ould bullshite to prove he’s sorry and re edumacated now. Maybe that’ll be his next docco. Tommy Tiernan in Tears. A journey of wokeism for a modhurn Ireland.

I think his downfall started when Ian became a lot more involved in the sketches with speaking roles! It always sounded like a school talent show when Ian would be saying his lines and acting surprised or whatever he was supposed to be and you could see it coming a mile away. It was like he was reading it from the script and it really took from the sketches.

If you’ve never heard Rosenstock singing then you’ve obviously never listened to Rosenstock when he was in his prime. The songs were a regular feature back then. That may somehow explain how you strangely think Callan would be ahead of him.

Rosenstock also would have had far more exposure in his career than Callan. He’s 25 odd years on breakfast radio, had his own tv show for a number of years, and must have his own chair in the green room of the late late show at this stage.

I’d advise you to actually listen to some of Rosenstock in his prime, the content will obviously be outdated as it’s heading for 20 years old at this stage, but it will still be streets ahead of anything Callan had ever done.

Rosenstock was also doing it all long before Twitter, Instagram etc. which would make what he achieved far harder as he wouldn’t have had the added exposure that social media brings.

You’re right, who is more successful is an objective fact, and it’s Rosenstock by a country mile.

There's the problem in a nutshell/sentence.

He's clearly a legend on that radio station, if you don't happen to listen to it, you miss him.

Callan has many years under his belt doing successful live shows - radio shows and television. Has successfully done magazine radio host too.

Sorry, I can't simplify it any more.

Tommy's playing a blinder if you ask me. Saying nothing publicly, knowing this will die down when somebody gets their 15 minutes.

I have heard rumours too that this company was looking a way out of it's sponsorship deal. The idea that they didn't know that Tiernan was already a controversial comedian is rubbish, they knew what they were backing/associating their brand with.

I would imagine RTE will keep these figures in mind. Tiernan is big business for them.

 The Late Late Show (695,000),

The Tommy Tiernan Show (546,000)

Like him or not, Jimmy Carr has perfected the shock joke pretty well- people laugh then feel embarrassed for laughing- and the joke is then on them essentially - Carr is clever with a lot of his jokes - and even if you don’t like him, his jokes have proper punchlines

there wasn’t anything remotely funny or bordering on comedy in Tommy’s savannah “joke” - the fact that it was a rehearsed joke makes it even worse - he actually thought this was clever and funny.

You don’t see too many comedians still on stage 25+ years after they first started- they tend to branch out to other things and just do the occasional gig- simply because being funny for 25 years takes a hell of a lot of work and very few can do that.

I’ve seen Tommy gigs on TV as recently as this Christmas and switched them off after 5 minutes- I’m just bored - his talk show is great but he’s a very uninteresting and unfunny comedian