Ireland running out of accommodation for Ukrainian refugees due to surge in non-Ukrainian refugees?

Boggles · 23-01-2023 1:27pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120145678#Comment_120145678

make space for a genuine opposition party

Who would that be?

I know, I know, all the racist nonsense without the God bothering nonsense.

But again who would that be?

batman_oh · 23-01-2023 1:28pm

All the men in Ballymun and East Wall with nothing to do sure look like doctors to me anyway. The HSE is saved

Kyokushin Grappler · 23-01-2023 1:34pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120145670#Comment_120145670

If any of them were actually Doctors, Lawyers and Engineers they wouldn't need to come here to Europe illegally. They should have no problems getting jobs and being able to come here legally. The fact that they're coming here illegally shows that they're not who they claim to be and not as qualified as they claim to be.

Loafing Oaf · 23-01-2023 1:55pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120145637#Comment_120145637

If you're asking specifically about SF policy on immigrants/refugees, the answer is more of the same only more so.

TomTomTim · 23-01-2023 2:07pm

I can't believe this stuff, even though I've no reason to be shocked

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/politics/government-should-plan-for-over-80000-migrants-to-come-into-ireland-this-year-new-integration-minister-joe-obrien-42306580.html

And when exactly did we get a Minster of Integration? I'd love to know exactly what they do day to day, and how they actually help integration. At a glance it looks like another useless state role that we're all forced to pay for.

Another thing worth mentioning, is that I don't think it's by chance that Green Party types keep ending up in these roles. Are Leo and the boys looking for a way to lay blame elsewhere if it comes down to it?

Geuze · 23-01-2023 2:11pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120145766#Comment_120145766

https://www.cso.ie/en/releasesandpublications/fp/p-aui/arrivalsfromukraineinirelandseries8/

Tables 7 and 8?

23-01-2023 2:11pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120145670#Comment_120145670

Legal immigration I have no issue with as I think the vast majority of people agree.

Illegal on the other hand is another issue. If I have a profession or trade I am not going to lose my papers on arrival.

I might though if I had a past I wanted no one to know about.

Let's be honest here. None of the Albanians or Georgians coming here are medics. Ukrainians maybe some. But not many.

creeper1 · 23-01-2023 2:29pm

I'd say medics from Ukraine are infinitely more needed on the front line caring for wounded soldiers battling the Russians.

And so they want to stay? So that's the goal posts moving then as refugees theoretically have to go home when the war is over. Of course in practice they won't be going anywhere.

They will be said to have "put down roots" and can't be returned. That is the same thing for the "international protection" folk. They wait so long for a decision that they have grounds that they put down roots. We know that the return rate for those even with a deportation order are incredibly low.

And Sinn Fein would only be softer and grant even more asylum to even more people. So no solution exists but the IFP and NP who will not win.

It's all just so depressing.

jmayo · 23-01-2023 2:31pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120145670#Comment_120145670

Ah yes the typical shyte of lumping honest qualified visa seeking applicants with chancers that turn up with or often without identifying documentation claiming they can't go home because

a) there is a war,

b) someone might attack them

c) no one likes them at home

and the latest valid excuse thanks to the Greens

d) it might get very wet or very dry at home.

Very very few have complained about proper immigration and you and the other proponents of the sh**show now taking place damn well know it.

23-01-2023 2:39pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120145975#Comment_120145975

Agreed. When the time to 'go home' arrives it will be all about little Olga settled in school here and sure little Sergey was born here so he is a citizen and so on..

And to be honest we are such a stupid soft touch of a country absolutely no one will be booted out.

I agree it is very depressing.

cal naughton · 23-01-2023 2:51pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120145637#Comment_120145637

For an example of a "Boot up the hole" people should look at the 2020 Galway West general election. There was a plan to put a direct provion centre in sean kynes heartland of Oughterard. Sean had to toe the FG party line and back the centre. When it came to election he was eliminated and he has recently said it was because of his stance against the wishes of the locality.

Before the same election one of the countries worst politicians Noel Greailish raised in the dail the issues of Nigerians sending 3.5billion back home and stated we should look after the Irish first before looking after the world.He romped home in the election .

When it comes to election time people remember!

TomTomTim · 23-01-2023 3:01pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120146054#Comment_120146054

I think it's a mix of acting like state PR, and the usual Irish stuff; blindly following whatever is trendy in the name of approval from their peers. It's like they spend their days watching everything the BBC does, then copying them exactly. Have you ever seen them break an international story? Or even be one of the first outlets to publish a story that's not Irish-centric? I doubt it, because they are followers, who wait to see what the rest of them are doing first, then copy and paste. It's a very lazy and safe approach, which certainly doesn't align with any claims of independence or impartiality.

Strazdas · 23-01-2023 3:02pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120144950#Comment_120144950

The same article had interviews with people who say they have every intention of returning to Ukraine and with one woman who has already returned home permanently.

Your "nose in the trough" comment would suggest you believe Ukrainian people are unwelcome (which won't come as a surprise.....no way are the East Wall / Ballymun protester guys happy with any Ukrainians coming here, even if they daren't say it in public).

Loafing Oaf · 23-01-2023 3:04pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120146096#Comment_120146096

Noel Grealish won't be dictating any alternative government's policy on immigrants & refugees though, which is what Spanish Eyes was asking specifically about.

Backstreet Moyes · 23-01-2023 3:25pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120146305#Comment_120146305

Did you find the link to the percent of people in employment yet?

Boggles · 23-01-2023 3:27pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120146357#Comment_120146357

Again, it's not up to me to back up your claim. 🤷‍♀️

SafeSurfer · 23-01-2023 4:18pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120146583#Comment_120146583

They can keep free room and board.

Their social welfare will be means tested once in employment.

SafeSurfer · 23-01-2023 4:21pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120146305#Comment_120146305

Glad to see you are up front with your double standards.

You have no problem whether or not 100,000 new arrivals work or not but want the Irish to be “sweating in their next job activation”.

What a beautiful human.

Kyokushin Grappler · 23-01-2023 4:58pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120145870#Comment_120145870

We can't even house who's already here. We have no business taking 80,000 more. It's about time the media did their job and start asking these clowns some hard questions.

This is what happens when you have a media and Government that are more interested in getting likes on social media for virtue signalling than doing anything remotely responsible.

TomTomTim · 23-01-2023 5:03pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120146888#Comment_120146888

This is what happens when you have a media and Government that are more interested in getting likes on social media for virtue signalling than doing anything remotely responsible.

And now, when they are getting backlash; abuse on social media and in the streets, instead of wondering why and changing their ways, they double down and play the victim. Yet you'll never hear even a hint about the people being victims of terrible state policies, which is far more damaging and long lasting than a politician getting a bit of abuse.

whisky_galore · 23-01-2023 5:14pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120144498#Comment_120144498

Tell me how you can get to Dublin airport, dump your passport and lodge a claim and not be sent packing??

pauly58 · 23-01-2023 5:25pm

It seems common sense is nowhere to be seen in this https://www.independent.ie/opinion/comment/despite-our-problems-we-must-not-shirk-our-duty-to-help-refugees-42306552.html if you think Ireland is full then by definition, you must be a racist.

This is all going to come crashing down. I find that editorial offensive, I've had more good friends from diverse countries but because I can see the utter stupidity of bringing more people in here I must be a racist.

Boggles · 23-01-2023 5:29pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120146429#Comment_120146429

Nope you mentioned specific stats, I can't back up your claim.

A reasonable person would concede that 1000s of literal refugees taking up employment would be a good thing, maybe even inspirational.

Not in Bizarro world I guess.

Boggles · 23-01-2023 5:31pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120146731#Comment_120146731

Nope never said any of that.

SafeSurfer · 23-01-2023 5:54pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120147041#Comment_120147041

You literally did. I even quoted it. You really must be the most dishonest poster on Boards.

Boggles · 23-01-2023 6:11pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120147133#Comment_120147133

Dishonest. Indeed. You really need to read my post again and then read your "claims".

Backstreet Moyes · 23-01-2023 7:24pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120147035#Comment_120147035

Grand so we can all see you were talking tripe.

So now I am not a reasonable person for asking you to provide figures for your statement on a discussion forum.

Nowhere did I say Ukrainians working is not a good thing.

But as usual you make up things that nobody has said.

It's all very predictable at this stage.

Strazdas · 23-01-2023 7:25pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120146955#Comment_120146955

That still doesn't equate to 'open borders' - we have one of the toughest immigration procedures at point of entry in the entire EU.

Also, there's no evidence of it being easier to claim asylum in Ireland than in any other country in Europe. Official stats show we are in and around the EU average for asylum claims, nothing out of the ordinary going on here.

Boggles · 23-01-2023 7:30pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120147523#Comment_120147523

IF you think it is such a good thing why are you demanding stats, when you already claim to have them?

Predictable is right. 😂

DrCatherine · 23-01-2023 7:35pm

Hello. Every morning I open the Irish news with fear and today in the flow of information I got to this forum. I was moved to tears by how many people are objective, loyal and ready to support Ukrainians. I would like to clarify. I am a doctor from Ukraine (yes, there are VERY MANY of our doctors, there are hundreds of them). In Ukraine, I had a salary of 1200 euros (I'm a dentist) and I don't think that we lived "in ****" as one user wrote here. Our health care level is very high, as is cultural development. If it weren't for the fact that my house was bombed - "from this ****" I would never have left. This is the first

Ireland running out of accommodation for Ukrainian refugees due to surge in non-Ukrainian refugees?

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