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How did you score in your last round? - 2023

  • 23-01-2023 9:55pm
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    Registered Users Posts: 2,727 ✭✭✭dan_ep82


    Fourth time starting this thread for the year and as usual I only start it on a good round

    77 off forward tee's on Headfort Old of 9.8

    3 under through 4 holes was a great start and held it until the 8th where I found the bunker. Being winter, bunkers are hit and miss,more miss today and cost me a few times. Good golf though in general and a PB for me



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  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 23,220 Mod ✭✭✭✭Kiith


    Only played once so far this year, 14 holes last weekend. Was the 1st time in around 6-7 weeks, so very rusty, but was happy enough. Drove the ball quite well, and hoping the gym work i've been doing will add a bit of distance. Lessons have tidied them up a bit as well, so relatively optimistic for the new year.

    Always struggle with my chipping when the ground is as wet as it is though.



  • Registered Users Posts: 142 ✭✭phelimb


    3 under through 4!!! I'd have gone home at that point as it surely won't get any better than that 😁

    What was going through your head, was it like I could actually do a level par (or better) round here, today might be the day!?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,749 ✭✭✭coillcam


    Had 30 points for 15 holes over the weekend. Usual winter rules of placing everywhere and forward tees. Had 7 GIRs which is probably a pb for 15 holes and easily could have dropped a couple of birdies.

    The damage was done early from a rare one that rhymes with bank, that was on the fairway where I went OB for a double. Next hole index 18 I had 180yds to reach a par 5 in 2 after a perfect drive. Somehow I conspired for a double after finding trees twice. Steadied up before a double-cross into the trees from a perfect fairway lie which cost me a triple after the turn. My provisional ball would have been a handy double of course.

    Despite those unfortunate big ones, my wedges and short irons were excellent. I managed a ridiculous houdini up and down for a par. Faced a steep downslope from essentially a grass bunker to a downhill and downslope green. I needed to hit it as a flop shot to attempt to keep it on. Clipped it perfect and it grazed the cup for kick in. Would have loved to see a video of it. Probably won't make a better recovery all year.

    Outside the big number mistakes it was very encouraging. Was a whisker off 4/4 GIRs for the par 3s. Irons generally going well and I think there's shots to be saved with putting too. Once the ground dries up a bit I'll go back to practicing short game properly. The practice area is very boggy atm, bunkers packed in and greens are inconsistent. Maybe I should be learning here.

    Driving solidly and learning a fade with the big dog atm. Helps attack 3x holes a lot better and leaving better misses on them also. Confident enough in the technique but needs drilling. Funnily enough my usual draw with the driver was starting to be a straight or baby fade shape lately. Played around to try to exaggerate it and found an option B fade setup that worked. Now I've a little more belief that I won't hook or slice drives as I've noticed a few setup errors I was making. Confidence is a big thing and removing nerves on certain tee shots is a fantastic feeling tbh.

    Forward tees and receptive greens this time of year so it's early days. Nonetheless, very encouraging signs for the upcoming season. Can't wait to get properly stuck into practice.

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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,973 ✭✭✭RoadRunner


    I had 10 Pars in our 12hole comp yesterday. Hit a bunker on two holes which cost me with a bogey and a double. 3 over par and beat my handicap by one with 25 points so am happy with that.

    (Comp was won with 34pts, so even though I played well and scored well, I'd have needed to pick up an extra 9 shots in 12 holes just to match their score! 🤣)



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,727 ✭✭✭dan_ep82


    Was hoping to hold it for 9 holes, I’ve had a few 1 under 9’s but never 3 under

    With how I was playing no birdies on the back 9 was poor, a level or one or two over would have been nice but honestly was just enjoying hitting the ball well




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,632 ✭✭✭willabur


    really struggling with my game this year. Dropped from 7.8 to 9.1 with two low rounds at 19 and 20 in my golf ireland.

    Have had 2 absolute wipe out rounds and two where my putting got me a 34 point return. Tracking my stats on Arcoss which is giving me a good spin in terms of where I am going wrong, but even without that I know that my ball striking is just terrible at the moment, standing over the ball and I don't have confidence I know what I am doing. This I think comes with reps, time of year etc...

    Off to range this evening with just 4 clubs and a focus on consistency. Using rapsodo to give feedback.



  • Registered Users Posts: 4,605 ✭✭✭blue note


    Having not played in 4 months I thought the best way to start my 2023 season was to head to the European club on an outrageously windy day. I played like I hadn't played in 4 months. Hit 6 GIRs which was good, especially with that wind. But also hit some very wild shots and lots of mishits. And 45 putts. It was comical - I couldn't get anything like the speed of the greens into me and every time I saw a break it was imaginary and every straight putt was also imaginary. Great course though. Although I understand why people say it isn't a links. It's not links ground at all.


    And I got out today in Skerries. What an enjoyable course! I'm still rusty as hell, but went to the range twice since my round and had a lesson, so I'm dusting cobwebs off. +14 overall. I had a few wild drives, I'm trying to correct my setup on foot of the lesson so they are to be expected. But you get away with loads there, so I salvaged pars on some of those holes. I got into the swing of it a around the 8th hole - I had a birdie, two bogies and 6 pars over the next 9 holes. 17 was a short par 5 so I had it in my head that level par from the 8th in was on the cards. Obviously I bogied it and the last. Still not a bad round though with 7 pars and a birdie when I'm so out of practice.


    It's a lovely low stress course though. It's nice some days to be able to pull a drive and still have a par on the cards. But there are some lovely holes with big elevation changes.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,632 ✭✭✭willabur


    Yay - won class 1 in Sunday members comp, which I am happy about. Putting down the improvement down to a really solid range session with my rapsodo during the week.

    Scratched one hole so it could have been a lot better, stupid topped drive left me with an unplayable on the index 1

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,634 ✭✭✭token56


    Had 30 points in a 15 hole competition at the weekend with one scratched hole. Only 1 point better than the previous weekend but much more consistent golf. Apart from the scratched hole, no doubles on the card which I was really pleased. I had been struggling with my iron play recently but that was much better. Even though I'd say it was a poor driving performance I hit a nice number of GIRs thanks to the irons. The short game was also decent enough, one sloppy 3 putt but overall coming along very nicely. If I can get the driving working and keep up the rest I really think I can start to go low (for me).



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,749 ✭✭✭coillcam


    Played Arklow for a team day out. Massively inconsistent day and ended with 29 points. The previously improving driver was desperate after a few early drives. Lost 4 balls. Two from the driver and one each from rough/fairway. Managed a birdie and had a few decent looks along the way. Otherwise, it was a great learning experience. Bump n run 9 or putting is way better than chipping with a wedge. A new shot to learn and broadened my decision-making process. The lies and conditions require a completely different approach to what I usually have on parkland at home.

    Then we had a 15-hole sweep at home. A tail of two halves really. Lost my ball from the driver on the first two holes. Driver desperation continued before I finally noticed a big but basic error on setup but that was late in the round. After the turn I remembered that I could play golf again. Recovered to make a couple of kick-in birdies despite otherwise being miles off on the putting and finished on 23 points.

    Range time with the driver is needed and a reality check that it's only January is probably also needed.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 894 ✭✭✭higster


    Ok, was pick clean place, damp and soggy & 20 HCI…40 points/87 swings. Best round ever! Bad start with a 130yrd drive and a double bogey followed by a triple (4 putt) and then par, par, bogey, par (index 2), par…and so on. Ended up with 1 bird, 6 par, 7 bogeys, 3 doubles and 1 triple. Driver was all over the place/short but safe (think first time finished a round with same ball I started with) and was poor with the short putts (long puts were very good). Irons…couldn’t do anything wrong, 6 GIRs. Loved every minute of it (bar first 2 holes). Lessons and practice paying off I hope…but afraid of the golfing gods.



  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 23,220 Mod ✭✭✭✭Kiith


    33 points over 14 holes today, which i'm absolutely delighted with.

    4 birdies, 4 pars and 4 bogeys (plus a scratch and a double). I'll take that 😁



  • Registered Users Posts: 84 ✭✭KevH1984


    Haven't played since November and recently got new irons and putter so have been mad to get out. Headed for the Monty in Carton for the first time on Saturday, lovely morning for it and the course was in great shape for the time of year. Considering I hadn't swung a club for 3 months I was very surprised with how things went. Hit irons really well although new putter was a bit rusty and missed a couple of short birdie putts as a result. In the end ended with 77, 5 bogeys and 13 pars. Very happy with it overall and a great start to the year. Hopefully with a bit of practice over the coming weeks things will improve.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,634 ✭✭✭token56


    32 points for 18 holes this weekend, a pretty rubbish round to be honest. After being fantastic last week my short game was absolutely shocking. It took 9 holes before I hit one decent chip shot and lipped 4 putts, 14 points for the front 9. The back 9 was better but still a couple of silly shots dropped. It was a fantastic day for it though and our course is in amazing condition right now given the time of the year. The greens in particular are brilliant. I think they were rolled last week and a fresh cut means the ball is rolling very consistently.



  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 23,220 Mod ✭✭✭✭Kiith


    Had my 1st proper 18 today, and played well. Shot 80 (par 73), but still disappointed I didn't break 80. Duffed wedge from just off the green on 17 did me in the end.

    Actually hit some shockingly bad shots. Some really poor wedges on 1st, 3rd and 4th cost me stupid shots, and the worst attempted PW I've hit ever on 9th (120 yards to front of green, pushed into the water 😞). Scrambled well enough at times though. Driving was good, putting good (two eagle putts missed that I'll blame on the greens) and irons a mixed bag overall.

    Overall I'm delighted with the score. Still though, really wanted to break 80! 😢



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,749 ✭✭✭coillcam


    Played the last couple of weekends. The previous Sat of the bank holiday I joined a 3ball and played a friendly match. Myself (11hc) with the best player in our club off +4 vs +1 and 2. I managed to contribute two really good up/down par saves when I had shots. Otherwise, my partner did most of the damage. The lad is different gravy compared to anyone I've seen around scratch. We won on 18. Funnily enough, I had a 260yd 7w, yep a 7 wood on a Par 5 that went longer than my driver. Downwind, sitting up in the rough and I flushed a high-face low-spinner. Sailed 30 yards past the green. For context, It's usually a 215yd club and I expected it to be about 230 yards in this situation. It'll never happen again and I couldn't stop laughing at the time as it's longer than most of my drives this time of year.

    I played the BH Mon and really struggled around for 29 points. My body was so stiff and tired. Genuinely ready to drop after the 18. Got a hot shower at home and ended up shivering my way to bed straight after. The bed is where I stayed for the next 4 days with a virus that drained the life out of me.

    Recovered well enough to play our 15 hole winter comp yesterday. Turned in a respectable 28 points. Played some nice stuff overall. A few duffed chips and avoidable 3 putts aside (32 putts for 15), I was quite satisfied. Tee and long game in good nick. Approach play and wedges also. Short game and putting both lacking confidence and practice.

    Greens already starting to recover from recent maintenance. A little more daylight now, so I'll start to get a bit more short-game practice and it'll really help a lot. I Got picked for an inter-club team and I'm also down for two other panels which I may get drafted to later. We have an internal practice match coming up soon and our team cap/vc are organising lessons too.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,632 ✭✭✭willabur


    41 points to win the members comp in corballis. 118 golfers so good going. It was the lowest gross on the day also which I am more satisfied about!

    Have to say... I didn't play that well. Had a slow start, bogey on the first after a bad pull off the tee. Scrappy par on the second and a good putt gave me a bogey on 3. 5 points after 3 holes. 8th hole is index 3 but its a gimme par and a handy birdie once you get the tee shot up to the green. I was in greenside bunker in 2 on par 5 twelve and holed the bunker shot. First shot with a brand new wedge..

    Made a balls of 9 and 15, sloppy sloppy golf for two double bogeys.

    Hit the absolute shot of my life on 16, 210 yard into the wind to a tucked flag. Knocked it to 3 feet (missed the putt). Missed what would have been a great par save on 17 (3 feet again). Birdied the last.

    Obviously delighted to win but my mind is blown by how much better the score should have been.



  • Registered Users Posts: 4,605 ✭✭✭blue note


    Well done @willabur ! I saw your name on the club whatsapp and was looking forward to seeing the summary here. It's a funny game where your score doesn't relate as closely to how you played as you'd expect! You must have played fairly well though!


    I got out today and played very well tee to green, but was shocking on the greens. I usually struggle at the start of the year, but this is a new level. 45 putts in the European club doesn't seem to be as freakish as I assumed it was. I came in with 28 points today. Had I two putted all my three putts I'd have come in with 37 points. I didn't have 9 3 putts, I had 7. But on the 18th I had a birdie putt which I overhit severely. It ran all the way off the green. I took two chips to get back onto the green and then two more putts. I went from putting for birdie to finishing with a triple bogey. This was my second time putting off a green today.


    I was very happy with my ball striking though. If I can play a few rounds over the next couple of months my game should be in decent shape.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 506 ✭✭✭swededmonkey


    27 points for 14 holes which i was delighted with considering none of my winter practice plans had come through. First round since mid September and zero range sessions. Driving and short game were much better than expected, but my irons need a tidy up. A few early shanks (4) cost me a good score. On the plus I have been doing a lot of mobility work especially around my hips and shoulders and that seems to have come to fruition. Just have to keep that going so I don't start locking up again.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,632 ✭✭✭willabur


    cheers, yeah was really happy with the score.

    Some days you just miss it in the right place. Played some really boring golf. e.g. was off the green on 5, took putter out even tho I couldn't get close to it. Made bogey but the putter took double out of the equation. My putting was super solid also, no 3 putts all day long and until the wobble on 15, 16 and 17 I nailed anything within 12 feet of the hole. All that said I don't think I will ever hit a better shot than on 16, strong wind, 210 yards to 3 feet. Got super lucky with approach on 18 also, tap in birdie



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,641 ✭✭✭kev_s88


    first comp in the home club this year. 27 points for 14 hole. Happy enough with how it went, striking the ball well enough. been doing a lot of work on swing control lately, reducing swing speed etc so have definitely lost a bit of distance, but gained consistency in my irons. definitely giving me the confidence to take on shots that i used to shy away from at risk of not connecting with the ball.



  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 23,220 Mod ✭✭✭✭Kiith


    Played 14 holes yesterday after a 9km hill run (training for Quest Kenmare), and unsurprisingly playing absolute shite. Toe'd the driver 3 holes in a row, which isn't something i've done in a long time, and was pulling everything left as i could barely move my legs. Still had a few decent holes, but didn't enjoy any of it.

    Golf is hard enough without running up hills before you play.



  • Registered Users Posts: 10 hogie_l
    Hogie


    I got out for a quick 9 holes during the week with my brother. And shot my best ever score thru 9 with a 40, I was 4 over. 22pts. Soo Healy to see the progression I’m making and really determined to keep going lower!



  • Registered Users Posts: 4,605 ✭✭✭blue note


    I finally got a duck off my back today - first time breaking 36 points in a comp on my home course since January 2020. And as is the way - I did it in a huge breeze. And not even the breeze we're used to. 3rd hole usually plays into the breeze - green would be unreachable in two for 99% of golfers if the breeze was blowing in the normal direction. Instead it was helping and I'd 70m left for my second shot. Which I duffed, but then I got up and down for the par.


    I turned with 23 points, +1 gross (playing off 12) and thought if I can keep it together I can reach 36 points. I did my best to scupper it - fluffed a chip on 10 and didn't get onto the green, I layed up on 11 due to the wind. Perfect spot for a layup... duffed the pitch and then failed to get onto the green with the chip. Made a good up and down for a point. I was unlucky in fairness on 12 with my free drop rolling back into a bald patch. I was not unlucky with a 3 putt zero pointer after it. Then another 3 putt on 13 (in fairness, it was a decent 3 putt). Great par on 14 into the wind and then a slice OB on 15. A very stupid shot. I left myself 90m downwind to the green on 16 and duffed the pitch and then left a chip short of the green. Another good up and down for a bogey. Good par on 17 and then duffed my tee shot on 18, just over the 17th green. I ended up making a decent bogey.


    I actually came away thinking I played well, but after writing the above I'm starting to wonder! There was lots of good stuff in there too in fairness. I made a heap of the makeable putts. And some of my ball striking was as good as I ever hit. And I finished with the same ball. That's about a 1 in 20 stat for me on that course.


    Fingers crossed anyway that that's the start of me being able to play that course. If it is, it only took 4 and a half years.



  • Registered Users Posts: 4,605 ✭✭✭blue note


    I played the first round of my club matchplay yesterday and was very happy with how I played. I won 3&2. I wouldn't have actually had a huge points score - 32 points after 16, but I struck it well and putted well. 9 pars and a birdie is a good return from 16 holes for me. 2 scratches wasn't great though - both massive pushes right with the 4 utility. I still haven't gotten comfortable with that club (which is supposed to be for when I don't want to take on risk).



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,749 ✭✭✭coillcam


    On a trip to Spain atm and had my first hole-in-one on Monday. 173 yds into the wind with a punched 3i just short of the green and ran it to the front pin. The other lads weren't watching of course! I wasn't sure it was actually in as there was a dip that it might have rolled back into. Kind of surreal walking towards the green and waiting for the lads to pitch on while your ball is still "missing". I ended up shooting a cricket score of 99 but I couldn't care less after the HIO.

    Played much better yesterday in a match with some of the other lads on a different course. We were 5 down after 9 and miraculously won on 18. Ended with an 84 for 1 worse than my PB. Reached two par 5s comfy and had loads of birdie chances slide by. A frankly ridiculous 3w went 280 off the tee and barely stays short of a ditch too. I'd love to play that one again. Heat, wind and firm conditions made it easy to bomb certain holes. Normal 250yd drives were running 270-300.

    Today I was back at the resort from Monday playing the other course and had a 92. Frustrating round where I struggled to make consistent successive shots. Putting definitely improved as I started to get a handle on the local grass. Speed is key but also break in the final 1-2 ft is very pronounced. Grain also plays its part which I'd never seen before.

    The big takeaway for me was the variables in turf and grass. You'd have solid hard turf inches from soft stuff that gives way like compost. You can't autopilot shots at all. Chipping and pitching have been really difficult as a result. Balls teed up on rough that can be whiffed in a blink. Snaggy straw like rough that's just a puzzle on full or long shots. It wants to strangle the hosel or bury the leading edge. Anyway, it's all been a great learning experience.

    Looking forward to replaying the resort courses over the next two days. Hopefully, I'm better prepared this time around. Regardless of the scoring and HIO it's been a great trip.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,651 ✭✭✭spacecoyote


    Congrats on the hole in one, even if you're shooting 99 strokes to go along with it, you've achieved something most golfers never will in their lives



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,749 ✭✭✭coillcam


    Back in from playing the same course from Monday again and shot a PB of 80. Knocked 3 off my previous best and 19 strokes from Monday!

    That was my most consistent round in a long time. Hit 3i often enough to avoid trees and my irons were excellent too. Went +2 through 9 and had a little wobbler after the turn which I'll explain later. Three doubles were the only damage but clawed back a couple of birdies. No penalties and tidied up most putts/chips pretty well. Had a mid range putt for birdie on 18 whimper just short but I'm delighted to shoot 80. Didn't see it coming tbh. My watch decided to not close the round off properly and deleted the data. Annoying but I now need to go out and shoot a 79 instead 😂.

    The wobbler was a double on a par 3 where we are all angry and a bit in shock. A guy hit into us on the preceding par 5 from 200+ yards. Inches from KO'ing my mate. He was marking his ball and it thumped the ground beside him. It landed between his putting stance and the ball to give you an idea of how close it was. I was also marking a couple of feet away on the same line as the inbound ball. If either of us were standing we were getting hit. He walked down after to say sorry when we were finished on the green but it was fairly half-arsed effort. Just kept saying "I didn't see you". I politely reminded him that it's his responsibility to only hit when safe to do so, especially when you can't see the landing area. He was clearly aware of the 3 slow groups ahead making it likely the green was in use. His partner could see the green from the fairway as the ball came in. Not acceptable in any way. That group backed off completely afterwards and gave us a wide berth finishing up.

    An eventful day for sure and I get to play this course again tomorrow. Huge confidence boost today and wasn't expecting a PB at all. Playing 4 straight days really gets the eye in.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,632 ✭✭✭willabur


    Fair play - I won my first round also on friday. It was blowing a gale. I was playing a former pro so I was expecting a trouncing in the conditions (he was giving me 3 shots) but I have to say I played some super golf. Over shot the green on 1 to the back of the low dune that runs along the left hand side of the 2nd hole, Managed to get up and down from over there for a half. Went 1 up on 3 with a comfortable 5. Was robbed off a birdie on 4, don't know how the putt didn't drop. Made a brilliant save on 5 which sickened him as he had a kick in birdie. We got stuck in a bunker in 6 but he beat me on 7. I won 9 with a super tee shot, won 11 with a super wedge approach to 1 foot then won 12 getting onto the green in 2. That left me 5 up after 12, ended up winning 5&4

    played great stuff, didn't give him anything easy and took advantage of most opportunities that came my way. I was extra motivated to finish the match early because on the 12th tee box I realised I had my wifes house keys with me in the golf bag. There is balance in the universe



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  • Registered Users Posts: 411 ✭✭IAmTitleist


    Broke par for the first time in my life with a 1 under 69 on Sunday there. Winter conditions with lift clean and place into rough if on the fairway so not proper conditions but can still say i broke par one time in my life!

    Best round in qualifying conditions is +2 gross which i'll still say is my best round but sure!

    Playing off a 5 handicap my 42 points were only good enough for 4th place in the sweep!! Young fella off +3 shot 59 gross 😳



  • Registered Users Posts: 4,605 ✭✭✭blue note


    I got to play the Sunday comp in Corballis at the weekend. There was a desperate wind out there, only 2 people broke 36 points on the day. Still though, my 22 points is hard to defend 😞


    I am wondering slightly if I need to change my mindset on the course. I have always been thinking bogies are fine and really it's mostly a case of avoiding the triples. A few doubles for 1 point aren't going to wreck your card, whereas you need a fair few pars to offset a triple / scratch. But now I've only 10 shots there from the whites, so on 8 holes the doubles are zero pointers. And I was sort of thinking that I don't need to go looking for pars really, if I'm playing half decent I'll get half a dozen at least. Whereas now with half a dozen and the rest bogies I'll have 34 points. Which is a fine score but not really what you should be aiming for. I am aware that after a round with 6 double and 2 triples and a scratch I'm thinking about whether or not I need more pars as opposed to how to get rid of those high scores, but it's more a general thought. I've never really thought about whether or not I need more pars before, but if I want to ever have a good score on Corballis I probably do need to think about it. However, I can't think of anything particularly different I should be doing on the course to achieve that. I wonder if changing my mindset about what I'm aiming for on the holes will alter how I play them even if I don't try to do anything different. I'm thinking about when I have an eagle putt - I'm far more likely to par the hole than I am birdie it. Even though I'm trying to do nothing different, the chances of me leaving myself 10 feet short or going 10 feet long with my putt go through the roof.


    Also, I wonder should I just try to forget a good score there. My best ever round there was over 3 years ago and is my only score differential better than my current handicap. And if I shot that in the morning it would leave me with 35 points.


    I didn't actually feel like I played all that bad on Sunday. I was a bit unlucky to lose a couple of balls, I had a couple of silly three putts and a chunked chip on the first which is never a good way to start. As regards really bad swings - I'd only really pick out the 5th a 6th holes as ones where I hit terrible shots. And undoubtedly, playing into the wind completely put me off on those holes. I was lucky to find one out of 4 tees shots on those two holes.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 638 ✭✭✭bakerbhoy


    You are a long hitter Bluenote.

    You don't need to flog your ball around Corballis. You need to golf your ball. Start there and you will see improvement in your score.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,651 ✭✭✭spacecoyote


    Reading various guys who talk golf management and improvement and the one they often come back to us...

    The biggest difference between the low guys and the mid handicap guys is not that they make lots more birdies, they don't, its that they do a much better job of avoiding doubles or worse.

    Going by arccos data

    Scratch averages 2.2 birdies per round and 0.7 doubles or worse

    15 handicap averages 0.5 birdies per round and 4.5 doubles or worse

    So from your end, yes, you need to be focussed on dropping the big numbers, that's where you'll see the biggest gains



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,727 ✭✭✭dan_ep82


    Played the qualifier for the four ball match play last week. Silly time to do it really, placing was lifted a week later and the greens had just been punched and sanded. Top 32 got in

    Combined handicap of 9 and shot 42 which we thought was decent considering the greens, finished 35th 😂 can’t complain too much, one team off 1 shot 6 under and didn’t qualify.


    Then played the first counting comp of the year on the Championship course. Lovely warm day but very windy at times and still the odd mud ball in the rough but otherwise really good condition.

    It was an open and got joined with two visitors, genuinely don’t think one of them ever played in a competition before, easily 25 golf balls lost in 9 holes so it wasn’t ideal setting.

    8 over after eight holes,birdied 9 to get back to 7 over, played the back nine 2 over with a birdie on 17 to finish 9 over for 37pts. Very happy considering I really wasn’t nailing the irons most of the time and first time off the white tees in a few months.

    Back down to 9.3



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,749 ✭✭✭coillcam


    Played a foursomes stroke comp a couple of weeks back. Unusual as the club typically doesn't ever feature a foursomes format on Sundays. Inter club committee suggestion and glad it was done. Got to play with a potential team partner and we turned in a nett +4. We played another team pairing and won the "match" on 16 but then went +3 on final two holes. The putting line discussions were brilliant and generally we approach the game very similar. Although he's 8 shots lower than me, very obvious on consistency, irons and short game. The only other thing of note is that skipping shots and multiple holes without putts in a match will take getting used to.

    Last weekend back to the usual stableford off whites. Lots of sand and maintenance work that week week. This meant placing and non counting. My chipping and pitching has disappeared entirely. Drove quite well tbh but my lack of short game bled strokes everywhere. Irons were decent and hit a peach 8i 160yds to 3ft on 18 for closing birdie. Also birdied 9 with driver, 54d to 4ft from 75yds. I must like walking to the clubhouse 🤣. Ended with 24 points and 5x scratches. Tbf there's 6+ duffed chips and 2 occasions I picked up in frustration rather than realise I had had a putt for 1pt.

    Short game woes are consitently chunks and it's clearly a set up issue. I'll try to grind it out in the practice area this week but a lesson is on the cards. First time I had this much trouble since I started playing.

    Driver and irons are where I need to be. Full to partial wedges ok but the short game is as above. Putting is much improved since last year. Reading lines better and a couple of Rotella audiobooks have made me very relaxed over the ball. Away this weekend and a break is probably no harm.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,749 ✭✭✭coillcam


    All of my best rounds have 3x or more double bogeys featuring in low 80s. Correct that and I'm a single digit golfer.

    It's way easier to tidy up a few sloppy holes than manufacture 2-3 birdies. It's always a combo of decisions/execution that compound errors, loose short game and a couple of 3 putts. My best 9-12 holes in a round are not far off a guy who's cap is 5 shots lower.



  • Registered Users Posts: 4,605 ✭✭✭blue note


    Well I'm certainly not thinking about birdies. Or even changing strategy on the course to look for more pars - I'm more just thinking about mindset. Currently, I think of a bogey as a net par, a par as a shot gained and a double bogey as a shot dropped. And I'd love to see data on how I perform based on how many shots I've taken to that point. Without question my putting when I have an eagle putt.... is terrible. I reckon I'm about 50/50 to three putt them, with leaving my first one about 12 feet short being the most common problem. And I suspect this runs through my game, if I'm on a green in regulation I reckon my putting is worse than if I'm on putting for par. And if I've left myself somewhere from the tee where I should comfortably be getting down for par I reckon that's the time I'm most likely to duff / blade a pitch. Of course, it could just be that I notice those ones more because they're far more annoying. There's nothing worse than leaving yourself 80m to the green and then duffing a pitch. But currently I'm probably thinking that this is great, an opportunity to pick up a shot if I'm pitching on from 80m to give myself a birdie putt. Whereas I should probably be thinking this is normal, nothing special here.


    Without doubt keeping the big scores off the card has to be front and centre in your mind. If you can't it's very difficult to come in with a good score. But in terms of targets, I've always thought of half a dozen as a solid number of pars in a round. On a really good day I might get 8 or 9. Keeping double bogeys to one in a round would be fantastic. And if I did that with 6 pars that would leave me with 33 points. With 9 pars 36 points. So if I'm going to get my handicap moving in the right direction, I probably need to be aiming a bit higher.


    As I say, I can't think of any real strategy change. I could aim for the middle of the greens on some of the holes where I'd more likely play for the front (and away from the real trouble), but I'm happy enough on those to leave myself long two putts for pars instead of risking a lost ball in the rough around the green, or a hack out that would be fairly random.


    For all I read about easy ways to come down - everything seems like magic bullet fixes. When in reality, for the vast majority of people the thing holding them back is their swing. For me, it's duffing and blading occasional shots - these can costs 1-2 shots each. Hitting the ground before a chip - that's another shot gone. Hitting a putt 6 or more feet short or long - that's another shot gone. A big dirty slice / pull on a drive - 1-2 shots. Pulling an iron long and left - 1-2 shots. The only thing there that arguably can be fixed with a change in strategy is the driver, but even there there's an argument both ways for taking the driver out or not. You have to figure out which side of the equation is bigger between the gains you make by being further up the fairway minus the losses from lost drives / drives in to the trees, etc vs the gains you lose out on by taking a shorter club from the tee plus the losses from hitting your safe club into trouble. Sometimes you're better off hitting a 5 iron from the tee and sometimes the right thing for you is to grip and rip that driver.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 506 ✭✭✭swededmonkey


    I had a pierce purcell practice round with my partner and we shot +6 gross for 16 holes. We were very happy with that and both our games compliment one another despite both being polar opposites in how we approach shots but it seems to work! Our general consensus is to play our own game and only offer advice or suggestions when its asked for. That stops us from taking on something we aren't normally comfortable with.

    That was followed by singles stableford and I had a great start, level par thru 6, scratched 7 and finished with 2 bogeys on the front 9 for 20 points. In typical fashion, I lost the feel of my driver on the back 9 causing me a lot of trouble and hitting out sideways on most holes to get back in play and limped home with a very scrappy 15 on the back 9.

    Keeping consistency with my driver is the focus for now, everything else is in reasonable shape. If I drive well, I score well. It gives me a certain level of confidence playing out the hole knowing I've done the hard work to get me there.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,749 ✭✭✭coillcam


    Looking at your post and stepping back a moment. We're at a similar level, where it comes back to consistency and on-course decisions. I played hurling most of my life until recently. The only way to improve consistency was rep after rep of touch and striking. The same applies to golf.

    • Irons: practice will improve consistency.
    • Driver: As above.
    • Short game: as above but also with the caveat of playing lower tariff shots where possible (chip on with PW rather than lobbing your 60 unnecessarily).
    • Putting: Nothing but reps here. A lesson may help but generally, it's all about feel and repetition. I try to hit loads of 4-5 footers and do a little lag/pace putting. Commit on a line even if uncertain, try to start it on the line and have a feel of the pace needed. Let the ball go and do it again.
    • Lessons: were of HUGE value to fix fundamental technique problems, especially irons and short game.
    • On-course: I aim to play the percentages and accept bad stuff will happen to us all. Some courses are treacherous if you're 5 yards off the fairway or green. Super-conservative golf may be needed at times even if it's not that sexy. No matter how well the driver is going, it's often not the optimal play. Attack the safe pins and aim for safe misses if pins are too risky.

    Golf is about scoring. Safely leaving a 150 approach rather than pushing to get a 110 approach. I'd imagine we both have a slightly better average from 110 without question. But how often do we lose a stroke by being in trouble from pushing it too much with the previous shot?

    Yes I have a goal of being in single figures and breaking 70. However, in each round, I only think of the goals of no doubles, no penalties and no 3 putts. This means trying to check the ego at times but also staying focused to try to salvage a bogey/par when I'm inevitably finding trouble. Also, the best advice I got recently was to ignore the score (good or bad to that point) and just focus on making the best shot possible for the situation you're in. Easier said than done at times.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,632 ✭✭✭willabur


    I played with you just the once but I can still remember the sound of the ball when you hit it. Serious striker of a ball. My comments back then might still ring through, you hit the ball very high and very long for each club. I would suggest that a course like corballis where the landing areas are so small and the wind is so punishing, that is going to be very expensive if you can't lower that flight. Potentially a low spinning golf ball would help - Titleist AVX

    the short game is just practice - if you are knocking putts that far past then its probably just reps on the greens themselves you need to develop. Perhaps a different putter with a soft face to develop that touch?

    Either way I think once you crack it you will kill it, the ball striking alone you should be a mid single figure handicapper



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,377 ✭✭✭✭PARlance


    Been a long time since posting in this thread. Achilles injury meant that last year was a write off in terms of any decent scores and handicap drifted fairly quickly as a result.

    But it's nice to have a decent score to post. 43 points off 15 yesterday. And it was a case of leaving quite a few points out there.

    Was 1 over through 10 and an unfortunate lost ball on 11 killed the momentum slightly. Nothing drastic but it was scratched hole and turned par golf into bogey golf with 5/7 remaining holes bogeyed. All 5 were as a result of a poor chip or missed short putt. Frustrating end but extremely happy to have gotten a decent round in. A bit embarrassed to say it could have easily been better.

    The HC system is a joke but I'm hoping to quickly get down once we're counting again.

    The "what ifs" didn't last long once I heard there was 49 points in. Course was playing easy and I actually know the guy with 49, relatively new to golf and his HC was right at the end of last season, but he has come on leaps and bounds over winter.

    14 months on from the achilles and I was still hobbling after the round. Wouldn't wish it on anyone. But it's getting stronger by the week so the excitement for the year ahead is growing.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,632 ✭✭✭willabur


    Won second round of our club matchplay on Saturday 3UP

    Did it take some resilience to do so. I suffer from herniated disc - L5S1, it flares up a few times per year and usually means a few days on my back but I can play golf no problem within a week. Anyways, I had 3 shots on my opponent, I am off 7 and he was off 4. He won the 1st hole with a par, I won second hold with a par. I had a shot on the 3rd and hit middle of the green with my approach shot so I was 1 up playing 4 which we halved.

    5th hole I get a good tee shot off and an approach just short of the green. Walking up to my ball, POP, back went, full spasm, up and down, couldn't bend over. My opponent hit his ball up to the green which meant I was away. I told him I was in trouble and he was very nice, said to take time.. I nearly walked off. I chipped the ball just to see if I could move. Decent chip to a couple of feet which won the hole.

    Said to myself, two holes up, this might go away, See if you can hit one onto the par 3 6th. Made a swing with just arms moving, barely a half swing with a 9 iron. Up to front of the green. Opponent missed way left. I got up and down somehow. 3UP

    Another punt down the fairway and a wind assisted approach meant I got a half. He takes the 8th with a tee shot to 2 feet. On the 9th I get up and down from no mans land, actually able to swing the club at this stage through stretching and generous latherings of deep heat.

    10th tee I said, give this a full swing, if its painful then you have to quit. It was actually fine, made a par for half. Missed a tiddler on 11 for a win, won 12 with a birdie to go back to 3 up. He wins 13 and 14, I take 15 due to his sloppy play. We halve 16 where i needed a shot and 17 laying dormie I hit a great tee shot to 10 feet. No Idea how I won that

    I have been lying on my back ever since, its freeing up a bit. Should be okay in a day or two :)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,634 ✭✭✭token56


    I was disappointed to miss out on playing in the boards society on Saturday but I was asked to represent the club in the Pierce Purcell and I really didn't want to turn down the opportunity. Unfortunately I'd been away for 2 weeks prior to this and hadn't touched a ball, it also meant no opportunity for any practice rounds but I was playing at home so not as big a deal. I got out early to the driving range to get a good warm up and was striking the ball surprisingly well. Got to the clubhouse nice and early too, a lot of putting practice to get a feel for the greens. There were a bit quicker than the last time I was out which I actually really like, felt like the distance control was much easier. All good so far.

    We were the first match out and I was driving on the odd holes so meant hitting the first tee shot for us. Our opponents had the honor as the visiting team and they put a solid ball down the fairway, not the longest but good position. I was very nervous and the adrenaline was pumping. Our first hole is a par 5 a bit downhill and dog leg to the left but was downwind on the day too. I pumped the best drive I ever hit over the corner cutting the dog leg and carried it a solid 290 yards, middle of the fairway to 150 marker. Absolutely delighted with myself walking off the tee knowing there was an audience watching. Unfortunately we actually managed to loose that hole due to a knocked down second shot and poor short game by my partner but his nerves settled down quickly and from the 4th onwards we started to motor. We ended up winning 6&4 playing very consistent golf and thankfully the club won the overall tie 3v2. The foursomes is quite an interesting format but I really enjoyed the challenge.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,632 ✭✭✭willabur


    little in golf more satisfying than winning an inter-clubs match



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,402 ✭✭✭ger664


    Played Pierce for the first time on Sunday. Out on the anchor but still a crowd on the First Tee. My baby fade/slice deserted me as I watch my ball drift left towards OOB. Partner played a provisional but we found mine and dug out a half. They played some excellent golf and where level trough 5 which put us 4 down. Won 6 only for me to pull my 5I right on par3 7 to go 4 down again. Got it back to 2 at the turn. Both missed 6 footers for wins on 10 & 11 we won 12 and 3 putt on 13 cost us again to level the match. Called a shore halfway up 14 as we had 3 matches won. Still think we would have got the win. Really enjoyed the format and looking forward to the next round if I hold my place on the team.



  • Registered Users Posts: 4,605 ✭✭✭blue note


    Fair play willabur! I don't know how you won like that, once I get a sniff of an excuse my game will fall apart.


    I existed the club matchplay last week. My opponent had no chance, I can't think of any way he'd have lost that match. I actually started okayish on the first 6 holes - I went long on the first and lost a ball, but that can happen. Par 2nd to win, lost 3rd to a par, tied 4th (neither of us deserved a point on it), won 5th with a par and then lost 6 to a par. So 1 down after 6, but striking it okay, so I'm optimistic. Then I shanked one on the 7th to another fairway. Lost that hole. Lost to a birdie on 8, but I had a par so it wasn't too bad. I duffed my tee shot on 9, lost it. Won 10 with a par. I hit the green on 11 from the tee, but then found my first which I had shanked. Lost that hole. I hit a sweet drive on 12, left myself about a nine iron into the green (par 5). Then I found my first which I had sliced. I took an unplayable, and then shanked that. Lost that hole. Thinned my wedge on 13, lost that. That left me 5 down with 5 to play. So I shanked the next tee shot onto the beach and that was essentially the match over.


    Fair play to the lad I played with, he was really nice. Under awkward circumstances! It's hard to play with someone doing what I was doing out there. So we played 18 and went in. I creamed a drive just left of the fairway. Pitched to about 4 feet and holed the putt. It's a funny game.


    On reflection, I'm wondering if I just started standing too close to the ball. I've adjusted my setup recently and it's probably something as simple as me overdoing a change and standing too close to the ball. I didn't feel like I was swinging it terribly, so I suspect that's all there was to it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 506 ✭✭✭swededmonkey


    It's very often something minor that causes catastrophic results. In matchplay, you don't the opportunity to reset and find your groove by being more conservative than you would playing your weekend stableford



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,749 ✭✭✭coillcam


    Had 33 points off 12 today. First counting comp of the year for me. No placing was announced early in the week but after a big Saturday of rain it was mudballs galore and plenty of plugging. Placing on fairway probably should have been allowed but hardly the end of the world.

    Mixed bag but very happy overall. Wiped one drive off the planet but scraped a point on the 2nd ball. Had 4 mini brainfarts of various sources but can't complain tbf. Irons were the highlight. Sneaks into my top 8 but not enough for a cut.

    Had 1x triple and 3x doubles. Need to remove them from my scores as they are the big killers of otherwise very solid golf imo. Short game practice to continue. Couple of practice matches coming up to look forward to.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,438 ✭✭✭✭El Guapo!


    Finally broke 90 today for the first time.

    I started playing golf maybe a year and a half ago. Struggled to break 100 for a while and then when I finally did, the scores hovered around high 90's since then, and occasionally dropping back above 100 again.

    Things seemed to be going in the wrong direction and I've been getting very frustrated with it. I've been a 28 handicap since the beginning and it's pretty embarrassing telling people that when they ask. A lesson is badly needed.

    But today I went out and had a different attitude and approach to the game which seems to have helped.

    Driver, which is normally an automatic slice, has been improving lately and behaved well today. Everything was long and, more importantly, in play.

    Irons and wedges were about the best they've ever been. There were a few poor decisions and the odd duffed chip that cost me, but overall I was very happy.

    Hole of the day for me was the index 4, 12th hole. Plays 360 from the yellows. Hit a good drive down the middle, leaving me 96 yards to the pin. I stuck my approach to about 2 inches. Very nearly my first eagle but I'll happily take the kick in birdie.

    Overall I'm very pleased with how it turned out. Only thing is I played with a friend who has no GUI so I cant submit it for handicap purposes.

    Finished up with 3 pars, 2 birdies, 9 bogies, and 4 doubles for an 87. Very steady golf for me.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,749 ✭✭✭coillcam


    Well played and congrats on breaking 90, you absolutely smashed it!

    Breaking 90 is a very satisfying milestone. You can definitely go out and do that again.



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