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Ireland running out of accommodation for Ukrainian refugees due to surge in non-Ukrainian refugees?

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  • Registered Users Posts: 15,678 ✭✭✭✭Beechwoodspark


    heard One of those chancers on drivetime.

    Strange exchange - Fella had Strong london by way of Kabul accent and was almost demanding accom from the journo - real sense of entitlement off him.

    What a joke of a system



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,130 ✭✭✭lmao10


    Anytime you see someone trying to downplay the far right, they are usually far right.



  • Registered Users Posts: 37 palette


    10 years or so ago, equal questions as to an immigration crisis would have been similar.

    "Who are these people? Where will they come from and how will they afford to get here, to the western point of the Atlantic ocean on a small island? Who will fund it, who would back it? Political suicide, surely. How many people do you think will fit into the country? How would the health system cope? Transportation, housing? Will they put them in school rooms temporarily, lol? Will they fill hotels across the country, lol? How would they get off planes and still be considered refugees, wouldn't it be easy for immigration to stop them and turn them around? People just wouldn't stand for it. That sounds like madness, lol"

    What was crazy to imagine then is now reality. What is crazy to imagine now will be reality later.

    Nobody can predict the nuts and bolts and details, but it's easy enough to see there there will be no continuation of this scam into the future. Reactions are, logically, coming.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,496 ✭✭✭Luxembourgo


    So the scammers taking away places from legitimate cases is now reality

    Very interesting, and an absolute slow moving train crash anyone could see coming.



  • Registered Users Posts: 16,563 ✭✭✭✭Loafing Oaf


    I have wondered if a reworked Veritas with toned down religious and EU rhetoric might work.

    There are votes there to be had.

    Hard to see them toning down the religious rhetoric tbh...



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  • Registered Users Posts: 6,504 ✭✭✭Silentcorner


    Ya...this persistent accusation is gone the way of the misogynist...a meaningless slur in an attempt to shut down or discredit someone with a valid argument.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,130 ✭✭✭lmao10


    Misogynism and far rightism does seem to go hand in hand...



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,841 ✭✭✭TomTomTim


    A day is coming soon when those types will be screaming labels as such into the void, because not a soul will be listening to them. To say they've overplayed their hand is putting it mildly, yet I don't blame them all the same, as it's been an effective tactic for a very long time.

    “The man who lies to himself can be more easily offended than anyone else. You know it is sometimes very pleasant to take offense, isn't it? A man may know that nobody has insulted him, but that he has invented the insult for himself, has lied and exaggerated to make it picturesque, has caught at a word and made a mountain out of a molehill--he knows that himself, yet he will be the first to take offense, and will revel in his resentment till he feels great pleasure in it.”- ― Fyodor Dostoevsky, The Brothers Karamazov




  • Registered Users Posts: 299 ✭✭bertieinexile


    Yeah, you get the impression that it's nearly over for the Far Right Observer crowd and they're reverting to long forgotten routines and muscle memory.

    Bit like HAL singing "Daisy, Daisy"



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,841 ✭✭✭TomTomTim


    Those old farts were once young and liberal, most people are when they are young. When you get older, usually your views evolve. Growth is an essential part of life; if you're stuck in the same place with the same views forever, then you haven't lived enough, or you aren't open minded enough. The fact that you don't get that says so much about you.

    “The man who lies to himself can be more easily offended than anyone else. You know it is sometimes very pleasant to take offense, isn't it? A man may know that nobody has insulted him, but that he has invented the insult for himself, has lied and exaggerated to make it picturesque, has caught at a word and made a mountain out of a molehill--he knows that himself, yet he will be the first to take offense, and will revel in his resentment till he feels great pleasure in it.”- ― Fyodor Dostoevsky, The Brothers Karamazov




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  • Registered Users Posts: 28,867 ✭✭✭✭_Kaiser_


    This is Ireland. We don't have a "right" anymore, let alone a "far right!" Twitter posts do not reflect reality most of the time.

    Besides, you don't need a "right" to be able to recognise that biology and historical facts trump feelings and ideology every time.

    That's not to say tolerance isn't important, but so is acceptance of the above reality.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,130 ✭✭✭lmao10


    It's obvious by now that if you're downplaying the far right or saying there is no far right then you are most likely far right and trying to justify those beliefs as the norm. It's the way it's seen at the moment I'm afraid. A bit like anyone who says the word "woke" on here is usually a middle aged far right lad.



  • Registered Users Posts: 37 palette


    I'd say the odds of all incoming generations of Irish people left without the proverbial pot to wee in regards housing, health, education and general mobility are going to be precisely the opposite of the select few of current generation that sold and squandered all those essentials.

    Add in maturity to recognise reality, its going to make some heads spin.

    Although you may be right, maybe voting on transrights will be paramount to those left living in hedges. You never know.



  • Registered Users Posts: 9,806 ✭✭✭buried


    Keep importing unlimited numbers of people who take their orders from what some Abrahamic cult says and good luck getting a vote for anything, nevermind trans rights.

    "You have disgraced yourselves again" - W. B. Yeats



  • Registered Users Posts: 37 palette


    Looking at the thread title, "Ireland running out of accommodation", and directly stated political statements of the last few days, it is clear that we have run out of accommodation. It is a statement of fact now. Not a maybe.

    The current shower are going to stand by and just let people swanny on in, hand them a few food vouchers and let them go wherever they please. What could you call that except an unadulterated hands in the air approach.

    There needs to be a rapid response to this negligence now. There is no more room, fact of the matter.

    Migration in just about every form needs to be frozen as of today. Policy of turn around on flights carrying unidentified people needs to be enacted today. Ukrainian refugees need to be diverted elsewhere. Its time to pass the buck back to airlines, airports, other countries, whoever. Our responsibility as a nation ends at the airports, borders and docks.

    As our politicians have stated clearly, there is no more room.

    Now they have to act upon that fact, today.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,130 ✭✭✭lmao10


    Funny how your whole narrative leads to people who you support getting laughed at when it comes to voting. To the cries of "the tide is turning!". Only to get laughed at again and again. It's like you lads are on a hamster wheel happy to keep going round and round. It's entertaining.



  • Registered Users Posts: 9,806 ✭✭✭buried


    No idea what the Hell you are on about buck, but glad you're entertained, for the time being.

    "You have disgraced yourselves again" - W. B. Yeats



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Dublin's a tiny city. Worried about the resentment that will manifest if people are lingering the streets with no prospects. It's already at simmering point.

    Entirely preventable situation, probably the most incapable senseless Government in the history of the state.



  • Registered Users Posts: 6,504 ✭✭✭Silentcorner


    Ya many of us are old enough to remember when the Bishops are clergy were losing power....there wasn't a sniff of it in the media or the political arena at the time. You remind me of those fanatic Catholics that used to sit at the front of the church...they were the last one's to cop on that the church was getting emptier and emptier...no one was listening to them anymore!!

    You think you are modern and progressive no doubt...just like the Catholics sitting at the front of the church did too!



  • Registered Users Posts: 23,756 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    The rise of the right is part of the package when the country has disastrous immigration 'policies' unfortunately. The refugee crisis we now have is part of the same package.

    It is sad to see where the country is going really. It's happening so quickly.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 44 LaoisWeather


    A genuinely provoking post if there was ever one. It seems some on here are thrilled to see hoards of unvetted migrants streaming in through the ports and airports as a mere joke to have "one up" on their fellow countryman. The country can go to hell in a handbasket for all they care, as long as they get one up on the natives they oppose. They'd exchange 100,000 migrants for one Irishman/woman objecting to it. They have hatred for Ireland - or more to the point, contempt for native Irish people. I often read Irish history and wondered how there were no shortage of "Irish" quislings happy for London rule to reign over Ireland. They haven't gone away you know.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,441 ✭✭✭batman_oh


    I suppose all these men are liberal feminists so?



  • Registered Users Posts: 28,867 ✭✭✭✭_Kaiser_


    Unfortunately its becoming increasingly likely that untill there's a similar display of "disagreement" in Dublin City Centre as was seen in Citywest, it'll continue to be downplayed and deflected by the Open Doors brigade and the mainstream media outlets.

    I just hope that innocents aren't caught in the middle but that's probably what it'll take before real questions start to be asked, and even then very timidly of the politicians (after all, too many "journalists" are related to, married into, or auditioning for future jobs with those same politicians).

    Post edited by Boards.ie: Mike on


  • Registered Users Posts: 461 ✭✭DaithiMa


    The only time Irish citizens have ever voted on an immigration related matter it resulted in a bigger landslide than either the gay marriage or bodily autonomy for women referenda (which I voted yes for both by the way).

    79.1% a pretty overwhelming result by any standards. Gay marriage passed with 62%, bodily autonomy for women 66.4%.

    Have you any thoughts on the current situation of newly arrived asylum seekers being put on the streets? You think things are going well?



  • Registered Users Posts: 7,414 ✭✭✭MrMusician18


    I wonder what the next policy move will be. Getting it out there that there is no accommodation to be had will slow arrivals but it won't stop it. What then?

    We could easily see more than a doubling of rough sleepers in the next few weeks and a resulting humanitarian and security crisis if there is no policy response. Dublin doesn't even have public toilets.



  • Registered Users Posts: 574 ✭✭✭Hungry Burger


    Incredible radio silence from the ‘let the world in’ brigade.

    So the #IrelandisFull protestors were right all along. I’d say that PBP plonker Gino Kelly will make a full apology to his constituents? Wouldn’t hold your breath…



  • Registered Users Posts: 15,678 ✭✭✭✭Beechwoodspark


    when the native “unwell” of the city centre realise these newcomers are competing for scarce homeless resources - well, it won’t be all sweetness and light



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    I think it’s hilarious that you can’t seem to grasp that as people grow up and have to enter the real world, their views drastically change 😉



  • Registered Users Posts: 619 ✭✭✭mykrodot


    I heard that earlier and it made me angry..........angry because the stupid interviewer never thought of asking why this man left the UK (which is hardly a 3rd world country) to travel to Ireland via Belfast.................. because Ireland has a better economy?? He spoke excellent English and must have heard we have an accommodation crisis before now? Yes he was almost going to fake a few tears at one stage, saying he could die if temperatures dropped to -5. Luckily we are in an extremely mild phase right now.

    But WHY do main stream interviewers NEVER ask why these young single jobless men with no papers are coming to Ireland? I hope they are left to sleep in the streets, then maybe they will take a train back to Belfast and back to the UK. They fully expect accommodation when they arrive here, they are chancers, economic migrants who will never do a day's work!!

    What is the plan here? If the same number of people arrive every single day from now on, and there is no accommodation, are they just going to wander around the country, robbing, fighting , and feeling we all owe them? What is going to happen in the next week or month?

    Meanwhile the headlines on RTE 6 O clock news was nominations for the Oscars, it went on for a good 10 minutes! Then Paschal and his posters................



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  • Registered Users Posts: 28,867 ✭✭✭✭_Kaiser_


    I will not be surprised if those natives are pushed aside in favour of the new arrivals - just as has been the case elsewhere



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