Russia - threadbanned users in OP

A brief synopsis will do.

Edit: 8 hrs. No synopsis received. Possibly someone is allergic to facts. So heres the thing, Germany benefitted for almost 50 years from cheap Russian oil, gas.

Made a fortune.

The savings must have reached the high hundreds of billions. Germany benefitted from such savings since the world trade center was just opening. Since disco. Probably a decade before Gordon Gecko had a brick phone.

This will also have led to increased investment. Aside from the huge monetary savings.

Thats Germany getting "screwed" according to some.

The only rationality I can find in the overall German and French position is the fear of a collapsed Russia with two nuclear armed factions emerging in its wake. That would be a bad result for humanity. The current homogenous Russia is probably better than that hypothetical balkanised Russia. Sending huge amounts of heavy armour to Ukraine does increase the likelihood of that scenario. But that does not excuse the unwillingness to send any tanks.

It looks that way to me too --

Feign disarray, then suddenly a comprehensive shopping list gets ticked off

Let the "master strategist" sit back stroking his cat while the Ukrainians envisage their next creative move

A conglomerate of intelligent, sentient beings versus a septic pea-brain

Having once been a sly spy does not equate to intelligence

Ukraine will figure this out and I am very confident of this. They are fighting for their lives against the orc rapists. They are highly motivated.

Farmers in Russia will be told what they can and can't plant and where and how much.

The view from Australia is this is a positive for Australian farmers.

I wonder could old Soviet tanks (possibly surplus to requirements) have their steering & throttle locked and be pointed at Russian lines of defence.

Bear in mind that it would be a hell of a lot easier for a tracked vehicle to stay on course than a wheeled one.

Difficult to miss a trench line.

The implications are obvious, pack with remotely detonated explosives, maybe even use some as decoys.

Russia will now probably speed up their planned offensives North, South & East since they know once these beasts arrive it will be a game changer.

The ability of these tanks, mixed with Bradleys, longer range artillery and rockets, possible F-series fighter craft will create a powerful combined arms effect. Once up and going this could be the turning point to force the Russians back.

We have posters here who have experience on some battle tanks, my knowledge is limited, but Ive heard the Abrams are high maintenance (like an ex of mine), im presuming, if these get the go ahead, there will be some repair or resupply bases in Poland?

Hopefully it forces them to move too soon, ill prepared, and ultimately hasten their own demise.

I don't think "pea brain" is a match for relaxed, insightful experts, acting in near unison.

The EU has banned all Russian aircraft from EU airspace already.

Its a profoundly stupid idea.

Any tanks captured from Russia should be refurbed and re-used - as tanks - because the Ukrainians have vast experience operating these types of vehicles.

Filling a tank with explosives and sending it, unguided in a (hopefully) straight line toward enemy entrenched positions is just idiotic. A tank with no operator and incapable of doing what tanks do best (firing from distance) is just a magnet for enemy fire. And if its full of explosives it'll go up pretty quick.

All they really would have to do is blow the tracks off and there you go, threat neutralised. Such a waste of a tank that could otherwise be used quite effectively by the UA army

I wonder if there was russian money involved in the EUs decision to shut down our sugar beet industry. Russian sugar beet production has doubled in 15 years.

Ukraine have fielded these tanks for the entirety of their existence as an independent state.

They have the knowledge, ability and facilities to maintain and repair these vehicles, and to crew them effectively.

Turning them into dumb unguided slow suicide bomb tanks is a stupid waste of tanks

In that case Kaliningrad is cut off totally. This could have very nasty consequences, and at the moment better to leave the place alone provided that it's not used to facilitate aggression, in which case all bets are off.

Kaliningrad could be supplied from Murmansk.

A nice oveview of who's promissed what or is thinking it over. I wish Albanese would hand over Australia's surplus 59 Abrams. Not doing so amounts to dog in the mangerism.

Unfortunately it's well shy of the 300 needed.