Ireland running out of accommodation for Ukrainian refugees due to surge in non-Ukrainian refugees?

And the greens (Eamon the tool) opposing building as many as we need because it's bad for the environment.

Who knows. But he came out and said this only a few months ago - if I remember it was 20,000 units a year or thereabouts that we needed to limit building to. But then O'Gorman recently said we needed to keep taking as many refugees as possible (80k a year or so) and a week later said we need to stop because there is nowhere for them to stay. It's the party of soundbites and contradictions.

There clearly isn’t any real desire to do more when they’re being provided with the means to draw down funds already allocated for housing, and they’re not doing it. I understand we could come up with numerous reasons why they’re not doing it, but that wouldn’t change anything. All that does is create an opportunity for a small number of people to suggest that the numbers of refugees, asylum seekers and illegal immigrants who aren’t being accommodated by the State, are somehow responsible for the lack of social housing and the pressures in the private property and rental markets that have been accumulating for at least the last ten years.

The figures are based on various reports in the media and a few other bits and pieces I’ve read, I could hardly be accused of not providing sources, it’s exactly why I provide sources in support of any claims I make.

That’s 20,000 illegal immigrants btw, there’s a distinction between asylum seekers and illegal immigrants - one group have a right to be here while their claims for asylum are being processed; the other group hasn’t applied for asylum and the numbers are impossible to pin down conclusively, but estimates put the figure at about 20,000 -

No official data exists on the number of undocumented persons in the State. In 2014, the MRCI estimated that there were between 20,000 and 26,000 undocumented migrant adults living and working in Ireland. More recently in 2020, the MRCI estimated that there are some 15,000 to 17,000 undocumented persons in the State, including 2,000 to 3,000 children. This includes those whose residence permissions recently expired as well as those who are resident long-term in the State without an immigration permission.

https://www.irishimmigration.ie/wp-content/uploads/2022/01/Undocumented-Policy-Scheme-January-2022.pdf

What’s your problem with me pointing out the obvious to a poster who imagines that as a taxpayer they’re supporting people who they’re absolutely not supporting, nor do they have any obligation to support anyone other than themselves and their immediate dependents. They pay tax on any income, doesn’t matter whether it’s income from employment, the sale of goods and services, inheritance, etc, same as anyone else in their position would be expected to do the same thing, there’s nobody handing out rubber medals for behaviour that’s expected of people who claim to be an adult.

Of course it's no coincidence. FG and FF know well where this is going and it suits them absolutely perfectly to have two Green sacrificial lambs in O'Gorman and O'Brien in the relevant departments right now.

They'll blame the entire debacle on the greens and those two clowns come election time. Can see a similar outcome for the greens to what happened them after the last time they got into power (which was another disastrous spell for the country).

O’ Gorman’s actions won’t change the structure and fabric of this country. Like as pie in the sky nonsense goes, claiming a “refugee class” are going to have any impact whatsoever on most people’s daily lives is the stuff of nihilistic nightmare propaganda.

I’m not sure what pull factor you refer to as you don’t mention it, but one of the pull factors anyway is that they’ve got plenty of support among Irish people, and those people tell their friends, and those people tell their friends… and nobody actually gives a damn about what Roderic is tweeting for the benefit of his Irish followers.

I wasn’t worried about “refugee class” men before now (apart from the hundred or so who were left in tents in the middle of nowhere in the middle of December, I guess “refugee class” makes a difference from the “fighting age males” stuff), but I think it’s a bit stating the obvious to point out that nobody has seen anything yet that hasn’t happened.

What might happen however in the coming months is that women and children with refugee status will be accommodated in plastic containers; everyone else, whether they be men, women or children, will have to make-do with tents.

I’d be more concerned about what protesters are liable to get up to tbh, given the way they’ve caused nothing but inconvenience and disruption to people who haven’t done anything whatsoever to them. When there isn’t a concrete and steel structure between them and the refugee class though, they’re not likely to be nearly as brave in their efforts to protect the fabric of Irish society.

Last three paragraphs of the link shows the farce we are in now.

A lad from Zimbabwe came on Tuesday from the hellhole that they call Germany.

The second lad from somalia is giving out about him on the floor but Ukrainians in 5 star accommodation.! Being taken for a ride here big-time

More homes out of the reach of working families....

Race to the bottom

I am really struggling to understand how you can argue that things funded by taxation are not being funded by the taxpayer.

Can you explain please?

@One eyed Jack

claiming a “refugee class” are going to have any impact whatsoever on most people’s daily lives is the stuff of nihilistic nightmare propaganda.

that's very naive, disingenuous and frankly it's outright disinformation.

you shouldn't lie, it makes baby jesus cry.

There just has to be money involved

corruption

I cannot think of any other reason why they could do this to their own country

How is this stuff not being picked up by the media with the guards in attendance at protest tonight in Finglas?

It’s time to stop this rubbish.

no more economic migrants. Alas no space for Ukrainians

time to stop this population replacement.