Enoch Burke turns up to school again despite sacking - read OP before posting

Well they are separate topics is my point. You can’t use proof of DSDs as validity to someone feeling trans.

Why not place an injunction that neither he nor any member of his family can loiter within x metres/kms of the school?

It goes deeper than that opposing ideology’s/identity’s. It is freedom of religion v freedom of expression. Equality v Discrimination. Ethos purpose v inclusion right to education for all.

This will be seminal case for law students in years to come.

It was not long ago (2009) that Portmarnock Golf Club in Dublin was permitted to exclude women as full members because it was a private institution and ethos of the club was golf for gentlemen.

It was only in 2021 women were allowed to become full members.

In my view the transgender community and advocates should be thankful how far ahead this new subset is on their rights. Compared to other much more established genders in society.

From the way I see it the Wilson school has veered from its strict Christian Church of Ireland ethos in order to accommodate a transgender students wishes. Burke views this abhorrent against his beliefs. Many others will view the school as being forward thinking and inclusive.

Much like how the Portmarock GC issue ended in 2021.

Well, it could've been. Instead he chose to turn it in to a case of a teacher who got fired for throwing a public fit who refuses to acknowledge that the courts have jurisdiction over him.

Can the thread title at least be amended from suspension to dismissal.

It's a proxy debate over transgenderism though.

If, on the one hand, Burke's belief was that, for example, the school should not be teaching evolution as the world is only 6000 years old, this thread would have nowhere near the amount of posts, as none of those posting in defence of Burke (but really, posting obliquely about transgenderism) would be bothered to post about creationsim.

Similarly, if, on the other hand, there was some backwards town in the USA where the school board insisted on teaching creationism instesd of evolution, and the Enoch Burke equivalent in that school had done everything exactly the same as Enoch did (same confrontation with the principal, same contempt of court, same appearances as school, etc) but was refusing to teach creationism as it they wanted to follow science rather than scripture, I very much doubt we'd have so many posters on here arguing that there are correct channels for a teacher to raise a protest and that the teacher advocating for evolution went about it the wrong way and they really only had themselves to blame and it was purely a disciplinary issue, and nothing to do with evolution or creationism.

From several pages back, I would pay to watch Vincent Brown vs The Burkes.

What part of ''Fcuk Off'' does he not understand ? Fill a hall with mental health experts and roll in Enoch or the whole family, There is enough there for a conference.😵

Does he have to physically go to the high court in Dublin ? If so would need to get his skates on, or can he purge his contempt remotely?

Separately, can I request not go give these folks oxygen who insist this is about transgenderism - and instead just few word reply like "comply with high court" which is what its really about.

He believes he is right, and has been wronged for standing up for his religious beliefs. We may not agree with him, but he isn’t the first to go to extremes based on religion.

While I can't address what the reaction would've been here, I can certainly say that if a teacher who wanted to teach evolutionary theory instead of creationism at a school that only allowed the later acted like Enoch Burke has acted I would be saying pretty much the same as I am here. That they were correctly fired and cannot be allowed to flaunt the orders of the court. I would also be bemoaning the fact that if they had acted like an adult they could have been in the center of a landmark case. But instead they decided to act like a toddler who isn't getting their way.

Has Paul Gascoigne showed up yet, with a bucket of chicken and a fishing rod?