You've been looking in the wrong direction, the dangers are coming from the right.

I'll try and make it as easy as possible for you.

I want people to present reasonable arguments to challenge the very clear premise outlined in the OP.

You, and many more, are freaking out because I keep pointing out that the argument that you want to challenge is not the one being made.

I already stated that you haven't shown any Left wing dangers that are as relevant in todays world as those from the right mentioned, why did you feel the need to prove it to me again?

Here's 5 traits of fascism according to the front page of google. 'Authoritarianism, Nationalism, Hierarchy and Elitism, and Militarism.'

Are you telling me that you can't see these traits in political or individual ideologies in Trumps version of the GOP, or Russia under Putin, or even elements in the right wing in the UK?

By the way, I didn't state that I could demonstrate fascism exists nor did I mention it in the OP. But you've dressed up this strawman and are adamant you are going to get your moneys worth out of it.

You've said there isn't a fascist regime that exists in the world today.

That isn't a fact.

Already done.

And as explained in post 2519, several Governments in recent years have displayed several elements seen as being associated with fascism.

Authoritarianism, Nationalism, Hierarchy and Elitism, and Militarism.'

And again to point out, you've the one intent on focusing on the term fascism, it wasn't mentioned in the OP, I didn't introduce it here over the last few days. So don't rock up next week claiming the premise of the thread is Fascism exists everywhere and that's what the OP was talking about.

I don't have an issue with it being discussed, I've an issue with you trying to ignore reality for whatever the fcuk logic you have your head.

Continue claiming it doesn't exist if you want. I'm not inclined to go through each of the traits, and give examples for you from US Conservativism (particularly under Trump) Russia under Putin and the UK over the last 4 years to support my position as to why it is ludicrous to suggest there has been no fascism thoughts impacting governance of our societies in recent years.

You know these examples exist, you haven't denied the traits of fascism listed as being indicative of the general understanding of the ideology so I think it's fair to say you would agree I can present evidence to support my determination of what I am saying. One of us is offering evidence to support their position, the other......

Like yesterdays repeated chant of 'I'm a centrist' todays it's 'Fascism doesn't exist' tomorrow it will be something else you insist is the case and that we all have to either agree with you or stop posting. Off with you.

They know how to accuse people of it, that's for sure.

If they hadn't the history theyhave had, there's no way they'd be allowed do what they have done in Palestine.

Is it, in your view, anti-semetic to say that?

Ffs you guys are unbelievable.

No one is denying the reality or impact of the holocaust.

There are countless examples of the reaction to people standing up for Palestine to be accused of antisemitism. That's a plain fact.

I know you didn't interpret anything I wrote as suggesting they should get over the holocaust because I didn't write anything like that but you literally just did what I said is frequently some and used my example of their behavior in Palestine as suggestion they should do that.

Like, you waddled in to the discussion, and gave a pitch perfect example of what is a common right wing practice. You literally read what I said is frequently done, and then boom, did just that. Did you even realize that would were doing that? Thanks for proving my point to your mates.

And what tripe is this in saying me and others are coming at this from a particular angle? There is no angle, I've literally said exactly what it is I believe. On what basis do you think you can suggest otherwise? If I said the Israelis got a pass for their actions in Palestine because of their history you and the others would spend the day screaming I was hypocritical because I didn't stand up for the Palestinians.

Either way. it's just another strawman angle on here so you all can continue to ignore the accuracy of the OP.

Any answer to the question or are you just going to leave it to you imagining what it is I would say in a hypothetical situation?

I asked if the statement 'If the jews hadn't had the History they had, they wouldn't be allowed to do what they have done in Palestine'.

In saying that that is anti-Semitic, it is you who is saying something akin to 'those blacks can’t be criticized now just because they were slaves in the past.'

I literally proposed the exact opposite of what it is you are saying my statement implied.