Toyota bz4X

Good review though 👍

Outside of the major faults with the car I've heard absolutely nothing about it, so I was surprised to see this outsold the Cupra Born. Who's buying them? Saw a few people on the electric vehicles subreddit were disappointed when they finally got to see the car.

At least it doesn't have laughable range like that Mazda.

Don't worry. Because of the huge number of orders already, toyota has stopped taking new orders for bz4x. Also, toyota ceo says that they have the capability to beat tesla in the coming years.

Tesla looks nice, but can you assure that it will run for 20 years without any issue. But toyota can or everybody knows already that a toyota car will run for ever -may be 30 years without any issue on any single feature.

Yeah Tesla just dropped the price of M3 to less than 45k. It is hard sell for the likes of Hyundai and VW which are quite established on the EV market. If ones still buys a Kona or eniro now.... How much is a bz with its 6. 6 kW charging?

So it looks like Toyota fludged the software of the car so that 100% down to 0% indicated is in reality actually only 100% down to 10%

most of the companies do a bit of that, and maybe Toyota were being a bit conservative with their BMS, but most other manufacturers get a lot closer to their WLTP than the Bz4x does, and they don’t have to unlock any buffer they build in to do so… so that should be fun with their million kilometre battery guarantee to retain at least 70% of stated capacity…. That 10% buffer meant they could anctually afford up to 40% degradation before they are getting hit with warranty claims…. That number becomes 30% overnight thanks to a software update….

they really aren’t doing this whole transition to EV very well are they? It’s almost like they’re not that bothered..

Sister to the BZ4X the Solterra gets called out for its similar inefficiency.

Its the same car, just different badge, how did anyone think it would be different?

Whatever these YouTube spread, toyota has stopped taking orders for bz4x in Ireland because of the huge number of current waiting list. Those who used toyota cars for many years know well of that brand. You could see sales persons of Tesla, kia all are putting their cars at the top of this forum. But they are just a hype. Those brands are not reliable.

The 3310 was very reliable too Andrew.

You could see sales persons of kia all are putting their cars at the top of this forum. But they are just a hype. Those brands are not reliable.

Yes they are. The father has had 3 Sportages and all very reliable and well built.

There is a waiting list because there are none delivered. 

Yes there is. My neighbour has one and before that had a Rav-4 hyprid. Don't ask me how he managed to get it so soon its a 22 reg not a 23.

Yea, fair enough... I should have said "nearly none".

The stats show that there were 140 registered late last year. Presumably a large portion of those are dealer demo cars and then a bunch of customer sales but we are talking tiny numbers... hence waiting lists.

For some perspective.... VW sold 3000 ID.4's last year so 50-100 BZ4X's is literally nothing.

Lets see if Toyota can up their game this year.

Kia are all hype and not reliable? That's nonsense. If you're going to pick a hill to die on it shouldn't be defending Toyota basically nonexistent EVs especially when Hyundai/Kia have solid offerings.

The general consensus of these in the EV community is mixed at best. Lots of people turned off them once they've seen and driven them. Outside of longtime Toyota customers I'd be surprised if many people here are buying one.

You obviously haven't heard of the widespread Toyota oil burning issue on a large number of models. Not saying they're bad but your hagiography of the brand is a bit much. I do agree with you that German cars are massively overrated though.

I heard that all the wheels were falling off the BZ. Means wheels fall off on all Toyota's.

Watched the review last night. Nothing surprising. We called it out for the same shortcomings. Inefficiency, slow charging, bad driving position. Had to convert the strange units the brits are using but I got 25kWh/100km which is poor. @40c/kWh that's 10quid/100km. Taxi drivers won't be happy. For people who want a Toyota better stick with their hybrids. Jack didn't answer a crucial question, and usually reviewers don't "Would you buy one?" I mean where do you draw the line? Color, shape boot size are not hard stops for me. But driving position and efficiency are.