Liverpool FC Team Talk, Gossip, Rumours 2024/25

But the point people are making is there are better than what we have at the minute. Fab was dreadful again when he came on a should have seen red. Hendo was nearly just as bad! Until we can sign someone who can make a difference the best we can do is at least support the lads who are putting in an effort and not absolutely slate them after 10 minutes every game, you know like what actualll genuine fans do.

I didn't think we were that bad. We were relatively solid for large parts, midfield ticked along ok until 65 minutes. Once Thiago and Bajcetic came off we lost any control in there. We created chances and weren't far from creating another couple with a better final ball.

Bajcetic did well for an hour, as did Harvey, who looks far more effective in a more forward position.

That's a much fairer assessment than most on here and I agree with that. We were decent enough for the first half especially. Trent actually played well, didn't wander. But, like you say,once the midfield was tinkered with, we were dead. Elliot was far more effective in that forward position and covered back loads of times.

I'm officially baffled by Fabinho.

He comes on the pitch, and in the space of about a minute, is caught 10-15 yards further forward than he needs to be twice in succession, eventually resulting the phase of play that he ended with a really poor tackle that he was lucky not to see red for.

That's not the actions of a player who's physically finished or mentally depleted, that's a guy being an idiot who doesn't understand his position. Why is he doing that? Why he is being an idiot?

If it's what he's told to do by Klopp and Ljinders wouldn't Bajcetic be doing the same sort of stuff? Cos he isn't doing that. Unless it was some master plan to win the game by having Fabinho utterly vacate his DM position and try and engage Brighton deep in their own half. Whole thing makes no sense.

Either way, can we not bring him off the bench again for a while?

Other than that the big problem in that game is we didn't create anything. We had Brighton pinned in their own half for a good portion of the 2nd half and did nothing with it.

Ali, Trent, Konate, Gomez, Robbo, Bajcetic, Thiago, Henderson, Elliot, Nunez, Salah

A few of those selections could be criticised, but I see little improvement from most alternatives.

February games

Could also get the Wolves or Chelsea game squeezed in since there is no need for the Cup replay date, could also use the 5th Round date for a game since all teams are out of the cup.

Was doing OK.. very good player. Really impressed with him. Unfortunately Fab injured him and shou6have been sent off 😕

For once though I think Ireland have a player of premiership quality.

Works so hard and can back it up with hiss ability too.

Henderson is a brave call. I'd consider anyone over sleepy Joe at this stage also.

Would we have faired better if Hendo Cameron at 6 & Ox at RCM

I don't believe him, but Klopp will always protect his players. He's publicly saying he backs them, but he might not be saying that privately to FSG.

Accrington Stanley

Someone needs to test Fabinho for long COVID.

Or else give him the 6 months paternity and come back in July for pre-season refreshed.

On a more serious note, all those muscle injuries in the last few years must have caught up with him. He got patched up to play the CL final last season and it may be the straw that broke the camels back.

The thing with VVD is that he will always be compared to his highest beak around 2018-2020 where he was very clearly the best defender in the world. Obviously age and injuries factor in and he would have to decline eventually but many people were writing him off last season as 'finished after the injury'. He was still the best CB in the league and was in the UEFA team of the season. Just because last season wasn't the same level as his peak doesn't mean that it was bad. And the same this season IMO. He would still start for every team in the league. An 'average' VVD is still one of the better CBs in the league.

Saying that a long term successor will need to be signed in summer 2024. 2023 is already taken up with midfielders. I think Konate has already forced his way to be first choice so I wouldn't really count him as the VVD successor, he's his own man now. We can't let the club dither for years with replacing idler players, like they have done with the midfield the last 2 summers.

Klopp is guilty of trying to do the same thing when it's not working with the players he has anymore.

But at the same time, he hasn't been given the tools to change personnel.

Only those old enough will get it

I hear ya but..

His slide isn't going to stop. It happens and unfortunately it is happening to him now.

Would he be better protected in a back 3 with trent and robbo playing further up we will never know but for me he is not close to good enough to be heading into next season.

I'm writing this season off btw

Games in May may be moved for the coronation of the King so things will be tight around then to so the Premier League will fit things in when they can would be my guess

Not far wrong & he's the only natural 6 out of all the senior players in the squad

The issue is he was so integral I can see Klopp being loyal & seeing can he refind his form next season , which if he doesn't will be a disaster

Don't think there is any sign that Klopp will walk. He said as much himself a couple weeks ago. Only thing that could change his mind I reckon is if FSG don't back him in the Summer.

To be honest, I can't blame some of the players. They should have had adequate replacement.

The spirit is willing but the body is spongy and bruised comes to mind.

How does a player like fabinho go from one of the best no.6 in the world to I don't want him near the team? It's ridiculous, he isn't even old just turned 29.