Sentencing, Murder and Hate Crimes

This is typical of this out of her depth minister.

It is all looking for likes from media and modern social justice and social media types.

It is in response to recent high profile killing of and attacks on homosexuals.

If she wanted to do something she would look at the disgrace that is our justice system where you have a rapist and triple murderer's consecutive life murder sentence commuted to a single life sentence.

The family still want to know which of the three lives was the only one that mattered.

Or you look at why the likes of Larry Murphy didn't even get a lfie sentence even though he was gulity of kidnapping, false imprisonment and multiple counts of rape on top of attempted murder.

They just pick one and sentence for that.

It is a fooking joke.

And as sure as fook, if she does even get her way with adding some term about hate crimes on top of murder charge, it will make diddly squat in terms of the actual sentence served as it will probably just be added concurrently.

This spanner that is minister likes to do things for likes not for the benefit of the people.

The sooner that waste of space is gone the better.

You're advocating for a 3 strike type rule. That's worked well, hasn't it?

That's it. Prison may have been a deterrent at some point, but now it's like a lockdown hotel. And nothing will be done. The bleeding heart brigade, who live nowhere near these criminals, won't let anything hurt the poor criminals' feelings.

Cool. Treat people differently based on the above. Or are we not supposed to treat people differently based on the above? (rhetorical)

Inclusion seems to want a lot of exclusion.

But we are treating them differently by saying that an attack on them should carry a higher sentence. But an attack on me for being ginger doesn't (just in case I need to spell it out for people, yes, I have been attacked for just being ginger). That's treating people differently imo, that was telling 15 year old me that I'm not as important as other people. It's telling those who still get attacked that they're not as important. Great lesson to teach. Lovely feeling. Maybe people should deal with their issues like I was, sticks and stones and all that.....

And assault is an assault to me. A Garda gathers the facts, a court decides the guilt and sentence. The reason is part of the evidence for the court to decide on. Whether it's via normal assault legislation, or through new hate crime legislation, the Garda job doesn't change.

proof of a hate crime requires a little bit more than "I think it was racially motivated".

there still needs to be a basis for the perception.

Pretty much all eye witness testimony is subjective.

No. You know they're not asked to guess the defendants motive. Don't talk nonsense.