Australian Open 2023

Golden Miller, That is a real stretch. Djokovic has pretty much always dominated the rivalry vs Murray. Djokovic dominated the H2H 25-11 and 8-2 in Grand slam meetings. You could even argue that the Wimbledon final that Murray won, Djokovic was completely shafted as he had to get through a 5 set semi final vs Del Potro and Djokovic was a shadow of himself in that final (probably the worst I have seen him play in a grand slam final).

Even if you look at the Australian open final in 2011 when both players were at their very peak, Djokovic beat Murray in straight sets 6-4 6-2 6-3. to say that Murray ever had Djokovic's measure is way off the mark in my opinion.

Also saying that the Next Gen are really poor. There is simply no way you can say Alcaraz, Sinner, Rune, Medvedev, Tsitsipas, Zverev are not really good players. The fact of the matter is Djokovic is arguably the greatest player of all time and you could argue that 98% of players have struggled to beat him over the past 15 years. Age seems irrelevant when you consider how fit he is, how well he still moves and being a crazy good tennis player.

Jaysis , I've always maintained Murray doesn't get the respect he deserves and he's prob top 10/15 of all time but you seem to be putting him as the GOAT!

Murray was definitely best of the rest, but, he just came up short against the big 3, which is not a criticism. Had he played in another era he probably would have won upto 10 slams and been no 1 for a few years. He was unlucky to come along at the same time as the big 3. It's a pity he got injured when he did as he was at the time Djokovic's most difficult opponent, but, his injuries were a result of trying to live with the big 3, his body wasn't able to sustain that, while they were.

Had he stayed fit I think he definitely could have gotten a few more slams and been one of Djokovic's main challengers, but, Djokovic would still have been the dominant player. Murray is definitely a level above the " next gen players" and generally made the big 3 earn their wins, which the next gen players have generally failed to do. A fit Murray would definitely have made the last 4 or 5 years more interesting, Murray getting injured was definitely a loss to the game. A great player, that had the misfortune to come along at the same time as probably the 3 greatest players of all time.

You are picking a period of one year in their entire careers and deciding that Murray had his number on foot of that. You could argue that Djokovic dominated Murray for 12 of the past 13 years! Also you even mention that during that golden spell for Murray, the H2H was 3-3, hardly suggests that Murray dominated him. The only grand slam were Murray comfortably won was that wimbledon final in 2013, as I mentioned previously Djokovic was a shadow of himself in that final having also played a brutal 5 hour semi vs Del Potro. The only other time Murray managed to beat him in a slam was the US open in howling wind where it was a complete lottery. Even at that it still took Murray 5 sets to see him off and he very nearly lost with a 2 set lead. Those two matches aside, Djokovic has beaten Murray in 8 out of 10 grand slam meetings and on top of that Djokovic has dominated their rivalry overall 25-11.

I have huge respect for Murray as a player and how he has battled injuries but the reality is that if anyone has dominated that rivalry, it was Djokovic. The only top 3 member that Murray had a good record against was Federer (even at that Federer had the winning record and he dominated their important meetings in grand slams). Murray had a pretty lousy record in comparison vs Nadal and Djokovic. No shame in any of that though as pretty much every player has a woeful record against the top 3.

I think that has no relevance whatsoever to legacy. you are judged on what you win. John McEnroe as a legend of the game sums it up perfectly here. Also worth bearing in mind that among the players, particularly the top young players on tour (including medvedev, tsitsipas, thiem, zverev, Rune etc), they all seem to suggest Djokovic is the nicest guy off court of the big 3. Several of the legends of the game have also commented on how misunderstood Djokovic is. That doesnt of course suit the media narrative who seem to make Djokovic out as the ultimate villain.

I have been following the tennis very closely all these years and I disagree, djokovic has nearly always had Murrays number, really don't know where you are getting this from. Djokovic also dominated him at the most important events, 8-2 in slams. Yes there were times when Murray got some wins over him but he never managed to do over a consistent period of time. Murray was a great player and competitor but Djokovic was and is a much better player, there is no denying that, the stats don't lie. Even pre murrays injuries, Djokovic was consistently beating him