Ireland running out of accommodation for Ukrainian refugees due to surge in non-Ukrainian refugees?

Heard there was 200 missing in the UK and thought it's only a matter of time before it comes out that it's happened here, didn't think it would be quite so soon, but

No level of meaningful advance consultation is ever attempted because it allows opposition to organise. There are very few communities, apart from some leafy liberal suburbs, where there wouldn't be at least some opposition. O'Gorman is correct in that consultation would not change some protesters views, but that's true of every controversial project.

So what we see is that people are informed it's happening after the point of turning back.

In fairness, I saw someone make the valid point this week that 'consultation' could well just end up with NIMBYism i.e. the people consulted will just say 'no', no matter how much explanation and detail is given to them.

We do have form in Ireland for a Nimby culture (it may well be a significant element in the actual housing crisis), so the consult the local community idea may not be the magic solution or ideal outcome that some imagine.

The state needs to step back. If you come here, find your own accomodation.

Then they will stop coming.

Problem solved

Precisely. But ROG is so clueless, he's now even backing down from the initial statement that new immigrants wouldn't be accommodated. Instead, he's "managed to locate" accommodation for most of the newly-arrived "adults without children" (i.e., single, unvetted men), completely defeating the purpose of the initial statement. So, going forward, his claims that we're full will be no disincentive for anyone to come. It really is a breathtaking level of ineptitude; just when you think he can't get any worse, he does.

I saw one of those tent camps on the news last night. Men from Poland, Scotland and Portugal.

No room at the inn for EU citizens but if you fly in from Albania and dump your passport you get a room.

If I worked in Scotland, Portugal or Poland and found myself without a job or accomidation, I am pretty confident the authorities would support me and not leave me homeless, until I could sort things out. Everyone needs an address to claim entitled benefits, apply for a job, apply for x,y&z. I can't understand why the EU & UK citizens are being not prioritized (accomidation needs) ahead of unvetted economic migrants arriving without visa's or passports. What is Brussles / EU doing about this ? They are quick to tell ireland to collect more taxes from multinationals, but are failing to point out Ireland's responsibility towards human rights and social protection of EU citizens.

Amazing how we can convert an equestrian centre into an accomodation block at the drop of the hat but if somebody wanted to develop 20 houses on the same site it could be hauled through planning for years.

I expect he got a stern warning about that far right statement so unlikely he will go down that road again. So, back to the initial strategy of no planning, hoping for the best and if things go wrong just shrug the shoulders.

The state does not have to place refugee centres anywhere, most especially for single men from God knows fooking where.

Ireland had become so attractive to chancers, and yes that includes some Ukrainians, that the exaxt opposite has got to be done to stop even more people turning up and to convince the chancers here to fook off.

Yeah you can call me a heartless fooker, but beggaring ourselves and our children so that gobshytes in power can appeal to self grandiosing halfwits in the media, vested interests in NGOs making a living off this lunacy and corrupt global organisations with celebrity endorsements is not what is good for our society and our people.

And the people are the natives, the ones here legally on VISAs and not some fooking chancer that arrived claiming they can't go home, wherever the fook that is.

We threw open the doors to Ukrainians, but now the p* is being taken even by some of them.

Why would you want to go back, most especially if you had legged and left your country folk to fight for the country's survival.

We stop it now because mark my words this is going to end in blood.

A traitor.

Then they should be honest and say there will be no consultation. Its the mealy mouthed pretending that they will consult local communities and then not doing it. They've been saying for months if not years now whenever problems arise that they will be open with local communities about whats happening but never do. I would respect the answer of we're not going to tell you whats happening because you won't like it over claiming that next time they'll inform people. He should be honest about the contempt he has for people who don't share his world view.

Theres plenty of open space in the RTE grounds, that seems like a perfect space for a tent set up for a few months

Such a referendum would see the NO side win by at least 80-20.

This is why there will be no such referendum.

Mass immigration is, and always has been, deeply unpopular among native populations in Europe.

The "Not in my back yard" mindset may well be causing much of the actual Irish domestic housing crisis, so I'm not convinced the government should be paying too much attention to what these local communities have to say about housing and accommodation. A lot of these guys are objecting to virtually everything that is planned : 'it's too high, it's too big, it's too near us, it's blocking our view, there's not enough amenities in the area for new houses, it's devaluing our property' etc etc etc.

Politicians must pay attention to what local communities say. They are elected by them. Irish politics is very local.

Frustrating at times.