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"Green" policies are destroying this country

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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,363 ✭✭✭kabakuyu




  • Registered Users Posts: 6,769 ✭✭✭SouthWesterly


    I see you've educated yourself on how organic farms work 🤣

    Ive as much time for the greens as I have for nonsense posts.



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,237 ✭✭✭Markus Antonius


    If it's as bad as you are describing then why aren't you and the many others who preach this existential crisis, a nervous wreck right now?

    If I believed even a small percentage of what they are telling us, I would instantly quit my job, contract the services of a psychological councilor and try and spend as much time as I can with family and friends.

    And yet those most vocal about climate change all appear eager to increase their follower count on instagram, project a phony image of being "climate conscious", get a friday off school or are in pursuit of or trying to service some other ulterior beneficial end point.

    Does this ever make you stop and have a little think for yourself?



  • Registered Users Posts: 13,186 ✭✭✭✭jmayo


    Well you had to be educated on how slurry doesn't grow your veg 😉

    I am not allowed discuss …



  • Registered Users Posts: 22,420 ✭✭✭✭Akrasia


    What good would that do?

    Climate change will take decades to play out. The reason why scientists urge faster and more decisive actions now, is because the harm we are doing is essentially irreversible on human timescales, and it gets progressively worse the more GHGs we emitt

    We will see negative impacts in our lifetimes, we already have the cracken beginning to awake. (Worst floods of all time in Pakistan last year, while hottest ever heatwaves in India within a few months of each other, there are many many other examples)

    If we don't do enough to stop climate change, we will get to 3c of warming within a few decades


    (From the notoriously left wing 'The Economist')



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  • Registered Users Posts: 4,503 ✭✭✭beggars_bush


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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,237 ✭✭✭Markus Antonius


    Well there is one leap to believe humans have such a domineering influence on the trajectory of the planet's climate, it's an even bigger leap to believe what we are doing is going to rectify the situation.

    Do you believe Eamon Ryan is the leader we need?



  • Registered Users Posts: 22,420 ✭✭✭✭Akrasia


    why would you say that?

    China will still sell solar PV units abroad, they just want to protect their IP because they know others will try to copy them (they know that because they wrote the book on industrial espionage)

    Western manufacturers will rapidly catch up. The level of investment in the technology is very high, and the west are perfectly capable of the odd bit of espionage ourselves



  • Registered Users Posts: 22,420 ✭✭✭✭Akrasia


    It would be a leap to believe the former if we hadn't spent the last 100 years studying it producing evidence that makes the human impact unequivocal

    As to the efficacy of the proposed solutions... we can't know for sure if we'll be successful. But we do know for sure (95% confidence) that not reducing our GHGs will lead to increasingly severe consequences

    Don't be under any illusion btw, we're not going to be able to cure climate change. All we can do is reduce how much harm it causes.

    We're the diabetics who have already lost a few toes but face losing our eyesight and whole limbs if we don't begin managing our disease.



  • Registered Users Posts: 3,055 ✭✭✭patnor1011


    Western manufacturers are not going to rapidly catch up simply because while we may develop technology we seriously lack pretty much everything that is needed to manufacture them. Not to mention that we cant even think about competing with labour costs.

    In case you failed to notice recent drop in nat gas prices was not caused by green conscience or technologies but by weak industrial demand in eurozone.

    So yes, EU may get closer to their green targets simply because it is being slowly deindustrialized. Perhaps Eamon envisions the future where we will get by by selling wolf pelts.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 22,420 ✭✭✭✭Akrasia


    Labour costs in high volume manufacturing are negligible per unit produced. (for high value goods like commercial solar PV). The Chinese manufacturing facilities are automated and so would the Western manufacturing facilities.

    If the US, or Germany, or any other advanced economy decided to focus on manufacturing solar PV as a national priority, it would happen very quickly.

    Just like if they decided to focus on manufacturing tens of thousands of heavily armoured tanks, and precision guided bombs for a war. Within a few years of properly trying, they'd have enough manufacturing capacity to raze entire continents



  • Registered Users Posts: 22,420 ✭✭✭✭Akrasia


    Perhaps, but the US have started building their own state supported renewables industry, They have committed to develop domestic manufacturing capacity in renewables with the I.R.A.. Similarly so are Germany, and pretty much every other advanced economy. The Putin invasion has been a kick up the arse that we cannot rely on unstable dictatorships for our energy supply anymore, not while we have the technology to bypass them



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,219 ✭✭✭Packrat


    This is absolute attempted dictatorship by one minster in the face of the courts.

    The power has absolutely gone to his head and he's no different from any other wannabe fascist now.

    Election is nearly 2 years off and that's another 2 years of gridlock and torture for the people of Galway.

    He really needs to be stopped now.

    https://m.independent.ie/news/environment/galway-ring-road-cannot-proceed-despite-fresh-review-by-an-bord-pleanala-says-minister-42323716.html

    “The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command”



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    It bodes well for the GTS review. Looks like the next Transport Strategy for the City will be placing a LOT more emphasis on active travel & public transport and a whole lot less on a ring road that is dead in the water



  • Registered Users Posts: 22,420 ✭✭✭✭Akrasia


    How is it a dictatorship?

    How is he a fascist?

    In 500 words or less please



  • Registered Users Posts: 3,055 ✭✭✭patnor1011


    Incorrect as most of what you post anyway. We will not surpass chinese volume and certainly not pricing simply because we have to import nearly everything what is needed to make solar cells. That requirement alone will make them uncompetitive.

    Not sure why you do mention bombs and tanks as that is still only in planning stage and will involve not only import of raw material needed but vast amounts of fossil fuels required for this kind of product. I was under the impression you are against heavy industry since that one is so energy demanding that any ramped up production will send your and every government involved green and emission targets out of the window pretty instantly.

    This tens of thousands of heavily armoured tanks you mention do exist in your dreams only since as it stands now Europe and USA are not even able to replenish their own stock of ammo they sent out. There is not enough critical components most of which is being imported from China anyway.

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  • Registered Users Posts: 3,594 ✭✭✭Pa ElGrande


    Standard media click bait that splices stock footage together and made in the run up to the Glasgow UN conference. Of course they use Bangladesh, its a country that is built on the massive Ganges-Brahmaputra-Meghna river delta that annually gets flooded NOT from rising sea levels but from the annual snow melt run off from the Himalayas and monsoon rains that have built up the country over an estimated 60 million years.

    Rivers normally flow towards the sea, as they do so they pickup tonnes of mud, and ground up rock and other debris, when they reach the sea, the speed of the water slows down and the mud drops from suspension to form the delta region. Over time these layers of mud build up over the sea level and are replenished by the annual floods which lay down the next layer, the reason it is higher than the sea level is a combination of sea tides and over topping caused by river floods as the surge or water from upstream cannot fit in the narrow channels. The irony of the alarmist claims is that rising levels are not a problem for Bangladesh, the river flooding will add more layers so the mud will continue to build up higher than sea level.

    Meanwhile in Egypt, back in the twentieth century they dammed the Nile, as a consequence the annual river floods no longer deposit mud at sea level and the delta area is being washed away, while the mud builds up behind the Aswan dam. Every few years harbours that are built on river deltas or estuary must be dredged to remove the mud and silt, e.g. Foynes harbour.

    If you really want to talk about a real ongoing disaster in Bangladesh, look what a United Nations agency did for them.

    UNICEF’s Chemical Weapon

    These were trifling affairs by comparison with UNICEF’s great effort, greater than that of the Manchester brewery by at least a thousand times. Like the brewer and the confectioner, UNICEF had no malicious intent, but as we all know intention and effect are not always quite the same. Indeed, they are often opposite.


    In Bangladesh, UNICEF correctly observed that diarrheal diseases were killing a lot of children. In all poor countries diarrheal diseases caused by a contaminated water supply are among the most prolific killers of children, and UNICEF decided to give Bangladesh clean water. It sank millions of tube wells so that Bangladeshis should henceforth drink clean groundwater.


    Unfortunately, as it turned out, much of the groundwater, clean enough bacteriologically, was contaminated with arsenic. This was natural rather than added by someone with wicked intent; but the result was that millions of Bangladeshis were poisoned by it. Chronic arsenic poisoning is an unpleasant condition and is even fatal in the long term. It is carcinogenic, and cancer rates began to rise in the country.

    Net Zero means we are paying for the destruction of our economy and society in pursuit of an unachievable and pointless policy.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,434 ✭✭✭batman_oh


    Active transport is a great buzzword. Will they now plan some public transport that might happen in 25 years? Sounds about the usual. A few bicycle lanes will fix it right up I'm sure as this is literally the only thing the seem to be actually capable of doing.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Well the bare minimum that is the current GTS will see a bus priority spine running from one side to the other, from SQR to the Clinic.

    The SQR is done, the Cross City link portion is kicking off shortly, going to the Huntsman and the Dublin Rd to Clinic portion has just been submitted for planning permission

    It's going to see a massive improvement in journey times and reliability with BE committing to an increase in frequency once they are done.

    But as I said, we're talking bare minimum stuff here.

    There's a dozen other roads that need bus priority infrastructure (WDR, Thomas Hynes Rd, Newcastle rd, Tuam Road out to Claregalway etc etc etc)



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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,219 ✭✭✭Packrat


    In less than the hundreds of thousands of words of nonsense, deflection, whataboutery, and outright lies you've added to this thread in support of this dangerous madman?

    No, 5 will do: He needs to be stopped.



    AkrasiaFeb 1, 2023

    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120189640#Comment_120189640

    How is it a dictatorship?

    How is he a fascist?

    In 500 words or less please




    “The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command”



  • Registered Users Posts: 22,420 ✭✭✭✭Akrasia


    Do you have a phone? Congratulations you're a monster. What are you typing your message on, is it a laptop?



  • Registered Users Posts: 22,420 ✭✭✭✭Akrasia




  • Registered Users Posts: 1,219 ✭✭✭Packrat


    They don't.

    It's a statement of my opinion and fact as I see it.

    You are entitled to post your opinion and we've had hundreds of thousands of words of yours on this thread alone.

    As am I.

    I'm under no obligation to reply to your vexatious and childish questioning in some effort to further your already well debunked opinions.

    When about 98% of people disagree with you it's usually time to reappraise your opinion.

    Now, I'm done replying to you so you can join your alter-ego on the ignore list.

    “The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command”



  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 91,586 Mod ✭✭✭✭Capt'n Midnight


    If cheap reliable nuclear power could be built within the time frame we need it and if there was a way to balance fixed supply and variable demand them it might be worth considering. But it's not cheap, or reliable, or soon, or flexible etc.

    Nuclear had it's last chance to shine last year. It didn't.

    There was a 1 in 500 year drought reducing hydropower and an embargo on Russian gas. Instead "reliable" Nuclear produced 16% LESS than normal.


    Renewables provided 22.3% of EU power last year. Solar output increased by 22%



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    a nuclear plant can use saltwater

    That is a viable option for 5 of France nuclear facilities, maybe

    For the remaining 13, as we saw last summer, controlled shutdowns are required during drought periods.

    Droughts are a very real possibility this summer in France given the exceptionally warm winter.

    The situation with nuclear in France is deteriorating, not improving




  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 91,586 Mod ✭✭✭✭Capt'n Midnight


    Next year, 2024 is the 20th anniversary of the announcement of Flamanville. France's newest nuclear power station.

    Last month they extended the timeline by 6 months, and added another half billion to the cost. And even if it starts up in 2024 it will then shut down as EDF will also comply with a request by France's nuclear watchdog to replace the reactor's vessel closure head by the end of 2024.


    Again I'll remind you yet again that multiple nuclear power plants across the globe have been taken offline by jellyfish. Being able to use sea water isn't all it's cracked up to be.

    When water is in short supply traditional power stations, including nuclear, use cooling towers to re-capture the steam.

    in Ireland it's hard to find places with annual rainfall of less than a million tonnes per square km http://archive.met.ie/climate-ireland/rainfall.asp


    More FUD, NOX emissions from best practice hydrogen turbines are minimal. We'd have to ban aviation and transport first.



  • Registered Users Posts: 29 Sharknose


    "Again I'll remind you yet again that multiple nuclear power plants across the globe have been taken offline by jellyfish. Being able to use sea water isn't all it's cracked up to be"

    "When water is in short supply traditional power stations, including nuclear, use cooling towers to re-capture the steam."

    I can't believe this !

    Here is a poster with 84,000+ posts, a moderator of science and technology no less, who doesn't appear to have the most basic knowledge of the operation of any marine engineering procedurs, or the most basic knowledge of steam power plant operation.

    Goodnight !



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,155 ✭✭✭Mr. teddywinkles


    May I ask here. Is all these wind turbines and solar panel and batteries for this green wet dream actually recyclable because we are going to need a fook load of them and I'm pretty sure they have a life cycle like everything else



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  • Registered Users Posts: 3,055 ✭✭✭patnor1011


    Very little can be recycled and when compared to the cost of making it any recovered material value is negligent. As for solar and currently used battery storage tech most of it is actually hazardous waste.



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