Time for a zero refugee policy? - *Read OP for mod warnings and threadbans - updated 11/5/24*

At least in Britain, you have a chance of being housed in Rwanda - what's Ireland doing - putting refugees onto the streets.

This will add to the current communal disquiet about refugees in the country.

A good chunk of them on the council waiting list or else their daughter is.

You have the same politicians wanting large social housing developments for these people.

Paul Murphy will be championing these people next week on housing.

Maybe you should listen to the interviews of the people living in the Light House apartments, many of whom are immigrants themselves. Those interviews were left to Gript Media since not one mainstream media outlet in the country would talk to them. Some of them are paying full market rent and others mortgages. One immigrant couple had been intending to sell up and buy a larger apartment as the woman was pregnant; their home is now unmarketable. Who's going to buy an apartment at the centre of a media storm because four hundred young men are living yards away across a small courtyard in a building designed as an office block, with Garda and ambulance activity outside every night of the week? The lives of 150 families have been turned upside down overnight and no, it has nothing to do with chasing a "honey pot"; it has to do with wanting a return to some semblance of safety and normality, where they can let their children play in the courtyard and their teenaged daughters walk to school without getting sexually harassed in broad daylight.

The international protection or assylum process does not work in practical reality. That is the first point to resolve.

The second point is access to social welfare - how to refine this process to ensure access to welfare is equitable for the tax payers and sustainable as a model into the future. Unemployment levels within African migrant groups must run north of 50%. Roma gypsies probably north of 99% there’s over 30k of them here now and the numbers growing who decided this is a good idea? 300/400 million alone there a year. Link the cost of crime to the criminal PPS number so it is discharged against all future welfare entitlements. Simple enough step it would seem.

A refinement of the right to shelter v right to a home. Some people achieve the latter without ever working or social contribution. Again who pays here and for how long?

Revise the notion of a social contract and what you are expected to contribute to the society you benifit from. And the sanctions for actual criminals v people who make a mistake. The current system doesn’t address the former.

Non nationals who are engaged in criminality should be issued with expulsion orders. We are seeing increasing attacks on people in public facing roles from a cohort disconnected from the concept of respect equality and personal responsibility. Something most learn in the home but sadly no more.

If the systemic topics are dealt with in a calm non hysteric or indeed warped RTE weird prism view we have some chance.

I’m not optimistic seems like policy at an EU level to erode living standards and erase social justice. The current political system doesn’t reward change - it rewards apathy and societal decline.

We have had no net new hospital beds since the year 2000 even though populations grown by 1 million plus - we are now seeing the challenge accessing school places which was a predictable outcome. There is also no discussion on what planning needs to happen when our tax payer ratio drops from 5 to 1 currently to 2 to 1 in twenty years time.

It has a lot to do with the European Union though.

How have we an unsustainable economy and what’s this got to do with refugees?

Exactly this, it is akin to beggars complaining other beggars are crowding their lucrative spots.

People are concerned and frightened. I’m seeing terrible reports of crimes that are not being reported in the mainstream media. I’ve no idea how true they are, but it frightens me. Whenever you hear Larry Murphys name people go into overdrive about where he is, so fearful of him. but we are letting total strangers into our country unvetted. They could have been doing all sorts of crime in their home countries and land in here then, claiming asylum who knows? I’m just saying we have no clue, and we are foolish, it is little wonder to me that people are afraid. Aside from that, there is the additional pressure on our systems that were barely fit for purpose before that are now creaking at the seams. The more the mainstream media dismiss people’s concerns, make them out to be lunatic right wingers or god forbid, racist, the more people will fear and will cling to their beliefs. We are nuts in this country, totally consumed about what others think of us, where to be called a racist is nearly the worst thing possible. We need to cop on and have some very honest conversations (and mainstream media glossing over things is not helping) about how we balance our obligations to others with our obligations to ourselves. We can help, we should help, but there’s a right way and a wrong way, and the system needs overhauling and the politicians need to have some guts.

So the government open dp centers in areas without planning permission and people cant protest in their own neighbourhood? Maybe if they had a public consultation they wouldn’t have these issues and not sneak them in under the cover of darkness. The planned centers in wealthy south side areas were shot down pretty quickly. I guess they are all racists too. Absolute staggering level of incompetence and arrogance from the government.

The scumbags are the ones destroying their documentation and playing the refugee system like a fiddle. I don’t give a dam about them.

Ha saw this...pretty spot on!