Time for a zero refugee policy? - *Read OP for mod warnings and threadbans - updated 11/5/24*

Did you not say airlines won’t allow passengers on board a plane without a passport for insurance reasons?

Wrong.

This is being picked up finally by mainstream media. Pat Kenny addressed it again today, 40% of IP migrants coming here have destroyed their documents. Pat is finally waking up. Likewise the Irish Times printed a very good letter yesterday from a concerned and very articulate citizen saying they are not right wing, they are concerned but that any of us who are concerned are being called Right Wing.

So it both the Irish Times and Pat Kenny are starting to see what is happening here and a huge amount of ordinary citizens are trying to be heard, trying to ask questions, wondering where this is going............then its not "blather" or "guff".

I am 60, I am boarding school educated, have a degree, worked in finance most of my life...........not a life long "doler" and I am hugely concerned and worried and even angry at this stage at being tarred as Right Wing just because I am asking questions. I am in Kerry but believe me if I lived closer to Mallow, or Ballymun, Lismore, Finglas.......I would be out marching too!

The people in the middle are having to go to protests organised by far right idiots because the government and media won't give them a voice.

The far left are giving the people in the middle no voice and basicslly telling them to suck it up and if you have no voice you will go to someone who gives you a voice.

The left are driving the people in the middle towards people in the right.

You want to legislate "Citizen Journalists"?

Fair enough.

I can just imagine the batshít they would peddle if that were enacted.

We don't have to support Ukrianinans anymore then we have to support Yemenis or Syrians who are being bombed as much....by European allies.

Yeah I am used to that procedure with my passport through US customs and IDK how it is euro travelers are managing to confuse everyone by allegedly destroying their documents mid flight. I’m photographed, the passport is scanned, etc. how is the planes passenger manifest not able to figure this out? There should be triplicates of their travel visas.

But you agree there is absolutely no excuse for acting like feral scum?

The Schengen countries and the UK are each bringing in a system similar to ESTA where travellers from Visa free countries will be expected to get pre clearance before flying. Ireland is not a party to either of these, so as always will be the soft touch

https://www.travelpulse.com/news/destinations/youll-soon-need-to-obtain-official-permission-to-enter-the-uk.html

The Schengen countries are also bringing in an entry and exit system, so your passport is scanned when you enter and when you leave so they will know how many people are overstaying etc was supposed to be in place by May but is now not expected until the end of 2023 https://www.euronews.com/travel/2023/01/18/new-eu-border-controls-delayed-until-end-of-2023-how-will-the-ees-affect-travellers

"The Entry-Exit System will be an automated registration system for UK and other non-EU travellers who don’t require a visa to enter the EU.

Travellers will need to scan their passports or other travel document at a self-service kiosk each time they cross an EU external border. It will not apply to legal residents or those with long stay visas.

The system will register the traveller’s name, biometric data, and the date and place of entry and exit. Facial Scans and fingerprint data will be retained for three years after each trip."

180k refugees here by year end government officials estimate. Game over for Ireland.

https://www.rte.ie/news/2023/0202/1353426-refugee-prediction/

As long as the behaviour I've described is only apparent to the people who have to live alongside it, and it's not reported in the mainstream news, this is a perfectly natural assumption to make.

Pretty much id do with those who destroy documentation. No passport and it's a tent and basic amenities, and a flight out once identified.

Those without passports are worse than unvetted, they are people who are actively and intentionally obscuring their identity

Our national debt is around 240 billion

we struggle to do the basics like building key infrastructure like hospitals, roads, public transport ( metro ) rail infrastructure…

A zero refugee policy which I don’t agree with , isn’t hate. Nor should it be disingenuously dressed in that manner.

a limited refugee policy or a selective one that gives us actual border control once again is what is truly required…

the vast majority of countries on this planet, control their borders. Successfully, to ensure the wellbeing, safety and success of taxpayers and citizens. It’s not a novel concept. Canada, New Zealand, India, South Korea… all hugely successful countries with thriving economies…. ALL control their borders.

Someone earlier posted an interview with an asylum seeker from a safe country who said they came to Ireland because they were told they can work after just 6 months.

Isn’t that the big pull?, get here, destroy your passport and you’ll be put up somewhere. Stick it out for 6 months and you can find a job somewhere even low pay and you can stay housed and fed by the government

100% correct, good post. Shows the absolute bonkers situation unfolding.

no passport, should mean they get detained and subsequently deported … their ID can be confirmed by the airline they flew with, make it a requirement that passports are scanned on checkin.

Did anyone hear the migrant on Pat Kenny today saying that the only reason they are all coming to Ireland was because we are a soft touch and “you get papers and citizenship must faster” he even reiterated it “that’s the only reason we’re coming, believe me”