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Ireland running out of accommodation for Ukrainian refugees due to surge in non-Ukrainian refugees?

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  • Registered Users Posts: 568 ✭✭✭72sheep


    FF/FG, ignoring the multi-decade homeless crisis they created, are facilitating uncontrolled immigration.

    Our media tell us we are racists, for daring to notice this, and that our politicians need increased levels of police protection.

    The Irish voters are the ones that need to be protected.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,936 ✭✭✭Jizique


    I am sure that is untrue; even if the govt don't have the balls to highlight the idiocy of admitting economic migrants from locations where there us no conflict, they should at the very least be agitating at EU and UN level, particularly the latter, that the current system is completely inappropriate for a world where wveeyone has a mobile phone, instant access to info on benefits, and no shortage of low cost airlines to fly to the destination of choice.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,853 ✭✭✭✭Idbatterim


    the housing situation is going to get way worse, they are brining in thousands, while newly qualified young irish emigrate in their droves. The level of politician here is criminal, they are actually enemies of the irish people... They are all the same woke, nanny state, insufferable gobshites!

    spoiling your vote to show your dissatisfaction is the best option....



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,023 ✭✭✭circadian


    So close, you were almost there before you went down the woke nanny state route.

    The problem isn't refugees or immigrants.

    The problem is useless politicians and public bodies. Without the increase in immigration we'd still be in the same position. Crumblin healthcare, schools reaching capacity, shortage of housing, low quality housing, lack of rights for those renting, poor public transport. The list goes on. Having an increase in the number of arrivals just highlights it sooner and more prominently.

    Trying to control the entry points is a futile task, makes little to no difference and no doubt would be a ham fisted solution anyway, resulting in even worse conditions and knock on effects.

    When those that are elected are landlords or have the potential for sitting on boards or some other cushy job afterwards then nothing will change. They don't suffer from a lack of housing, sure most own 2 or more! They don't have to worry about public transport. They most likely have a top class health insurance policy. Those running the country have no idea what it's like for the plebs.

    It's not the people arriving that's the problem. It's the people running the country and they've been doing a **** job of it for too long and has now left us in a position where we simply cannot cope in a crisis.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 467 ✭✭DaithiMa


    So now Roderic is starting to get really desperate.

    Now he is looking for "Sports halls, college theatres, and even classrooms" to house refugees and asylum seekers. In fact, he wants "any available building which would be suitable to house refugees in sleeping bags or on mattresses,"

    When is this clownshow going to be stopped? Surely there has to be one person in government with the brains to see that what is happening is completely unsustainable and call out this utter insanity.

    O'Gorman should instantly be removed from his position, he is responsible for one of the biggest messes this country has ever seen.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,658 ✭✭✭jackboy


    He has no say in it, he’s just doing what he is told.



  • Registered Users Posts: 124 ✭✭clytemnestra


    Jesus f'ing Christ. Would that be our desperately oversubscribed, overcrowded schools with the largest class sizes in Europe? Isn't he supposed to be the Minister for Children? Is that children in Ireland or the extra couple of billion outside Ireland? You're right, this deranged, incompetent clown will be judged extremely harshly in the future. "Extremely difficult"? It's only extremely difficult because he invited half the fecking world to come over and bypass our immigration laws, and indeed laws in general while the taxpayer picks up the tab for it all. Who is going to stop him? This is absolutely insane. I've lived through some bad Irish governments but even the sleeveens and thugs of the 1980s wouldn't have dreamed up this kind of destruction.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,535 ✭✭✭Silentcorner


    "We need to rethink the concept of our borders" according to our political elite. OK then, put that to the people!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,232 ✭✭✭waterwelly


    Of course we can opt out. It may have consequences but we can.

    This system was never designed for say, 1 million a year flooding into the country of 5 million.

    And that's where it's headed. So indefinate tents will be the best these people can hope for in another few years.

    Let's stop pretending they will ever get a house and set our stall out on that early.



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,390 ✭✭✭olestoepoke


    I'd wager that there are hundreds of thousand of votes there for the taking for any independent or party that are brave enough to stand up to this madness. Apart from a handful of independents the electorate doesn't really have a clear choice.

    It's either the gobshites that are there now, Sinn Fein who are no better or the Far right loonies like the Freedom and National Parties, who no sane person would vote for. If a party like Aoutu took a gamble and stood up they'd see considerable gains in the next election, stealing many of these votes from disgruntled Shinners.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 467 ✭✭DaithiMa


    There's no chance, because they already know what the result would be.

    The general public will be the very last people to be consulted where immigration policy is concerned.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,554 ✭✭✭MrMusician18


    I have to say that it's interesting that the other departments aren't exactly digging deep to help out O'Gorman and DCEDIY



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Actually, under the Treaty of Amsterdam, Ireland has an opt-out.

    The politicians voluntarily opted into this, so what you said above is incorrect.


    (source: Tracey O'Mahony, Barrister)



  • Registered Users Posts: 229 ✭✭minimary


    This article has a quote from Peadar Toibin and hes saying the same things all the other parties are saying, hes really missing the golden opportunity for his party to distinguish themselves and actually take a stand

    "Earlier, Aontú leader and TD for Meath West Peadar Toibín said in some working class areas people feel they are not getting the "dividends" when refugees arrive into communities and that is a "difficulty".

    Speaking on RTÉ's Saturday with Colm Ó Mongáin, he said these communities are already feeling under "fierce pressure"."

    https://www.rte.ie/news/politics/2023/0204/1353818-refugee-harris/



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,481 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    If a party like Aoutu

    You mean Aontú?

    I actually like Peadar, he seems a fairly decent skin.

    But no, they could offer to install free Guinness Taps in every house and they won't be making any considerable gains in any election.

    Ireland is done with Catholic Conservatism.



  • Registered Users Posts: 229 ✭✭minimary


    As well hes just getting himself in deeper, lets say you take over the lecture halls in a university from May onwards, are you in a position in September to then house the people you put in there and all the new ones that have come? Its exactly what they did with University accommodation last summer, I would say hes praying to make it until May when he can get his hands on those beds again nevermind he'll have to find somewhere for them to go once the summer is over.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,451 ✭✭✭WishUWereHere


    But why can’t we do what the USA does? Do passport control at the boarding airport, not at the destination? That way we stop these people from countries not at war ( so far I have heard Botswana, Algeria, Georgia & Albania - who I think are looking to join the EU )from using up badly needed spaces for Ukrainians escaping a war?



  • Registered Users Posts: 229 ✭✭minimary


    USA only does that in Ireland for the past few years, most other countries flying to the US you do it when you get there. It would be massively expensive to have a group of Irish immigration officals in every airport that flies to Ireland just think of all the small regional airports that ryanair flies maybe one flight a day to Ireland from



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,391 ✭✭✭✭Furze99


    It's interesting to see how mainstream media & most politicians are treating the protests - start off by blaming 'right wingers', very briefly discuss a few legitimate locals concerns, then back to the 'far right' and how dangerous this is for society etc. Rinse & repeat.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,481 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    What ever legitimate concerns there is are certainly been hijacked by bad actors.

    The people with legitimate concerns will tell you this too.

    You just have to look at the state of what happened in Finglas this week, and other places previously.

    They are calling for more information from governance, won't matter a jot, the weak minded put more credence in Whatsapp and Facebook Bullshít.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,391 ✭✭✭✭Furze99


    I disagree - seems to me that politicians and mainstream media are doing the hi jacking. They don't want to acknowledge the concerns of ordinary citizens because these have real meaning. Instead they paint a picture of the 'far right' bogymen to suit their own agenda.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,554 ✭✭✭MrMusician18


    I think to be honest the media are using the bad actors in an attempt to discredit the protesters.

    The problem is that even a cursory look reveals the lie. The majority of those protesting are not far right, but ordinary citizens sick of their communities being told they must carry the burden again and again. All while those doing the telling get away with no load at all.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    RTE are the state broadcaster, and will only report what the government want to be reported. Newspapers like The Irish Times are also extremely biased and agenda driven. The Kitty Holland debacle did them a lot of damage. More and more people now distrust legacy media, and their influence is waning by the day.

    Ireland is a very small country. People can see for themselves fairly quickly the effects (good or bad) of significant immigration. They don't need the government, or anyone on the left or right telling them what to think.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,146 ✭✭✭lmao10


    Agreed. The scum tagging along that are not from the area and are just there to hijack the protest for their own gains are annoying the regular folk who would like to have reasonable discourse with officials but because of these toe rags, the protest ends up nasty and associated with the far right. We see and hear the ludicrous conspiracy theories and we know that these far right scummers have started trying to infect the situation. It was nice to see Carey lifted. The other prominent types should be cleaning house in anticipation of an early knock on the door, according to recent reports saying more arrests were imminent.



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,390 ✭✭✭olestoepoke


    Sorry about the typo, my fault for not proof reading a post on a boards thread.

    I think you are underestimating how a lot of people feel about the current situation in Ireland. A similar underestimation got Trump into power, I'm not sure what Catholic Conservatism has to do with anything. Unless of course you believe ordinary people genuinely concerned are ultra conservative or dare I say "Far Right".



  • Registered Users Posts: 6,582 ✭✭✭SafeSurfer


    I’m beginning to think the drones over Dublin airport may be a protest over undocumented immigration.

    What happens if someone who has destroyed their travel documents onboard expecting to land in Dublin is diverted to Belfast?

    Multo autem ad rem magis pertinet quallis tibi vide aris quam allis



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,390 ✭✭✭olestoepoke


    27 people arrived from the USA to Ireland and asked for Asylum last year. Whats up with that?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,675 ✭✭✭Quantum Erasure


    Meant to be freezing tonight, hopefully there's not too many out on the streets sleeping rough



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    The guys calling for violence and "burning people out" etc will be arrested. End of.

    That said, a lot of the communities are worried as they're aware of the uptick in crime that has followed in other European countries with similar influxes.

    They've genuine concerns based on data from elsewhere, and shouldn't be ignored.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,133 ✭✭✭✭One eyed Jack




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