Tesla Model S

It was the cheapest car ever sold by Tesla worldwide. Probably still is 😁

Free supercharging from 2017 stays with the first owner only, so it dies if you sell the car, so worth nothing to the new owner. Anyway, any options are worth very little in the second hand market for a car now over 4 years old.

My own model S is similar to yours but a 2017, no 7 seats but mine does have full self driving

I'd say mine is worth very late 40s and yours is worth early to mid 50 or thereabouts. Both in a private sale, a few grand less from a trader

I fit 4 michelin pilotsport 4 to my S90D when I had it and they were a very good all round tire in terms of road noise and grip

Model S Plaid in Spain with CCS port you say?

Tell me more…

...about those horrendous panel gaps/misalignments...

My X PLaid is still preordered with no further update. I havent decided if I will take it or not. I'm waiting to see if this nonsense tesla vision based AP gets any better. I was only saying (after a 250km motorway drive) to herself that if it doesnt improve I would consider other options.

Looking at Tesla model S online and don’t see prices or expected delivery dates (there for the 3 and Y). Anyone know what’s the scoop?

Rumors of first deliveries of both X and S here in the next 6 months.

I have an X on preorder but with all the nonsense of tesla vision, no USS etc, I'm debating whether or not to keep the order. (Of course, I won't cancel it until I'm pushed to make a decision).We've decided pretty much on an Ora for second EV as herself loves it, so would be trading the 3 in against the X.

The S is a great car, I still miss mine and I'd have another (MSM and 85 pack or higher) in a heartbeat.

I’d suggest you try tyreleader or oponeo and pay someone locally to fit. Tyres have gone up quite a bit in the last 2 years but it pays to shop around if you’re buying 4 premium brand tyres for large rims.

We're all on vision only. Model 3 that came with radar now doesnt use radar.

It's crap. And yes, your 2021 M3 will be vision only.

Yup, I agree 100%, hence my current decision not to buy my X that's on reserve. Unless and until the tesla vision in my 22 TM3 is as good as my old AP1 was in my 2016 model S (let alone AP2 in my old X)

Is the Radar functionality still in new 23 models just disabled or has it been removed completely?

Cheers, not ideal. Have an order for new Y, knew USS were gone which isn’t ideal wasn’t aware radar now gone too. As poster mentioned above Tesla don’t make it easy when considering to buy!

It's a lot slower, it's nowhere near as much fun to drive. It is not insane. The traction control can actually pretty much handle all that torque. It is not a beast.

Oh wait, you were asking about the benefits? 😁

The facelift cars are worlds better in terms of build quality. The interior has improved from drab old US style (not good) to actual premium, space age ultra modern, particularly in white (like my car). My car comes with Full Self Driving (FSD), which is available as beta software to all owners in North America. And it is simply awesome. FSD in any circumstances for real. In Europe, not so much so, we are held back not by the EU, but by the UNECE, which has forced Tesla to disable a lot of the functionality, for now. In the USA, to add FSD now costs $18k. Not kidding. And as soon as it has regulatory approval, it will likely no longer be for sale at all. With level 5 approval, your car could make you serious money for the 95% of the time you are not using it. The "robotaxi" concept. You say BS, this will never happen? We'll see.

The facelift cars no longer have any issues with battery or motor, they are very reliable. The "computer" MCU1 still has to be fixed when it goes wrong but this is free, even for cars out of warranty. Door handles still fail, but are fixed now with Tesla only charging for the part, not for labour. And the replacement part is vastly improved and should not fail again

Hope that helps! But I've likely forgotten lots of relevant stuff. Maybe some others can chip in.

Salt will corrode any cheap metal .

gold?