Brexit discussion thread XIV (Please read OP before posting)

A far more honest and sober view of the situation.

So it seems the UK will have to adhere to EU food standards for this to work. Doesn't sound like they are the ones in the role of the "top" in this bending over situation.

There was never, ever, ever, a possible circumstance where Britain could divert from EU food standards, short of shutting down all agricultural production, fishing and food manufacturing in the UK.

Do they export all their food to the EU? No, but they do export enough of it that to lose it, would make the rest of it utterly unviable.

This IS what's happening. Can't you read? The EU is capitulating to what is in the Tory UK command paper of July 2021. It's chapter and verse.

Isn't it amazing how we were told for years the EU had to do nothing, ignore the UK, EU was all strong - to suddenly, when the EU surrenders it's position, "the EU is being pragmatic".

The usual suspects here are incapable of criticising anything the EU does.

The usual suspects have been right every one of the other many times you came on here with your impending "Ireland out of the SM""sold down the river" stories.

You have set many specific dates for this but like Nostradamus fans the world rumbles on and you just dream up a new date.

The usual suspects have been correct for more than half a decade and your predictions have been consistently wrong for a half a decade.

I would if that were the case. What we are talking about are customs checks at NI ports. With freedom of info being given to the EU on consignments, doubt over the ECJ and no mention as of yet on whether the EU will have customs offices permanently based in NI for "oversight".

That sounds remarkably like the current situation with some frills and a cherry on top.

The UK originally offered the unicorn camera system, the EU said show us it working and we'll agree, the end game for the EU is to ease trading, not make it more difficult. If the UK comes up with a better solution the EU will happily agree, for now, the EU wants their borders protected and whatever the details of this deal are I would presume anything going through a green channel will be monitored, the degree of that monitoring will be down to the UK's solution on how the green channel is managed.

As usual it's back to the UK to come up with a solution.

Is there an ignore function on boards.ie ?

This is getting ridiculous!

Salon, what to you think the UK has won?

The NIP is still in place. They were apparently ready to unilaterally outlaw it.

The UK have conceded on providing real time info to the EU. Something they balked at previously.

The EU will have ultimate oversight and full recourse on any breaches.

In effect, as is the case of the NIP, the UK gas accepted that it will continue to abide by EU regs. Which it now has no input into or say in.

You say technology hasn't changed but it has. EU has access to real time data. Not just reports. EU can now view all movements in real time and react accordingly. That was not on the table before. The UK wanted the EU to just trust them.

This is simply the application of the principals of the NIP. Yet again the EU get everything they want.

We're in the post Britain exit from the single market era so every lie and spin they tell themselves is immaterial as long as the facts on the ground keep the all island economy. As for their precious united kingdom there never was an open market for goods, or people; Stormont retained the right to deny an English or Scottish catholic from taking up a post in Northern Ireland, and Irish Sea animal checks were championed by the DUP.

We discuss announcements and events relating to Brexit in this thread, whereas the posters you mention repeatedly brigade the discussion which is against forum rules, so I don't know why they're repeatedly allowed to spam the thread.