General British politics discussion thread

The below poll comes out to about 59 seats for the torys, with some well placed tactical voting on the part of Labour and Lib dems they could well be the 3rd or even 4th biggest party and not even be in the position of being the official opposition. They need to be hit hard and reduced to insignificance to properly reform into anything credible.

The 59 number is apparently based off the 2023 proposed boundaries

Massive stretches of the country are Tory no matter what. They don't even think about before they go to vote they just know that Labour will nationalize your car and send all Eton alumni to Siberia.

True, but there has been some extraordinary results in recent by-election. Yes, by-elections are a time to give the government a kicking, but they don't tend to loose safe seats. North Shropshire was conservative since 1832, yet there was the seventh largest swing in by-election history there. Chesham and Amersham had been Tory since it's creation in 1979. Tiverton and Honiton was considered one of the Conservatives safest seats. I think they are going to loose a lot of "safe" seats in the next election.

Its definitely gonna be bad for the Tories but I don't think we will see a Dail 2011 type wipeout. The UK system is too binary.

What would be considered the London influenced area has grown too. Transport links and house prices has put a lot more none Tory voters into areas like Kent which were going to endanger those seats regardless of the current crisis.

If they were genuinely concerned about voter fraud they would be looking at the postal vote system. From memory that's where trouble has cropped up in the past.

But all you are doing is trying to verify their identity to an acceptable level for fraud prevention - surely it's utterly irrelevant whether they are still a student or have dropped out?

And intriguingly expiration date doesn't seem to be a factor in Northern Ireland (often held up as example of how voter ID checking is already in place in the UK) as an expired passport appears to be fine.

The Electoral Office of Northern Ireland - EONI

"The identification document does not need to be current, but the photograph must be of a good enough likeness to allow polling station staff to confirm the identity of the holder." (their bolding, not mine)

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But on the mainland student travel cards can't possibly be acceptable because Timmy may have left his arts degree mid term. Bloody hell.

Brexit Britain a close ally of Ukraine. Their President getting the red carpet treatment today.

LOL keep digging the problem is that no student or 18+ travel cards are valid AT ALL even if they are in date for voting ID, while all OAP travel cards are valid. Even doing a quick bit of research you would discover the list of valid IDs is disproportionately weighted in favour of older people with younger people having far less options.

I've a German friend who uses his Driving License for Photo ID. Taken 50 years ago!