Manchester City Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2024/25

Joe. This is only 1 item. There are 99 more

One of the accusations relates to Roberto Mancini's pay. Mancini is said to have taken home his official £1.45m salary through the Manchester City club’s books as well as an alleged £1.75m via Sheikh Mansour’s Abu Dhabi club, Al Jazira.

But this is what i mean do you know for definate that is one of the charges made at city ? or is that just a rumour ?

And say for arguments sake it is true that that happened, how would you prove it ? you prob wont get either Mancini's or the other clubs accounts as you wouldnt have the Jurisdiction to demand them. So all you left with is rumour or hearsay.

Too many times in case where charges are made people forget they mean nothing until they are proven.

Ill reserve judgemnt until i can see the facts or the judgment/report and i would do the same if it was another club involved

Ya i see that now but specifically what is allegation has not been published by the League only that the rule was broken (if the specifics have be published send me a link).

As for not supplying information in that instance the PL wont be able to get Mancinis or the other clubs accounts so how would you prove a payment was made, also you couldnt charge City with them not opening their books. Unless you have some other smoking gun its hard to see how you could prove an offence here.

The board convened to look at the evidence will probably be looking at it under the evidential standard of "balance of probabilities" but you would still need some hard proof.

What I do find odd is that Chelsea are one of the clubs pushing hard for investigation/punishment , given what they are currently doing with ther obscene transfer loopholes.

I'm not a lawyer , or know the exact details, but it doesnt seam sporting to me , yet they are pushing for the book to be thrown at City , whilst they bend the laws to suit themselves - Everton for instance are hampered by FFP for at least 2 years now

Uefas problem was that their rules didn't allow them to use the hacked materials as evidence of City's wrong doing.

The premier league has no such rules on the source of information they use as evidence. The hacked internal city emails are the biggest proof of their rule breaking, one merely needs to read them to know they're in serious bother.

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Yeah, the last time round with UEFA it was much like the C Ronaldo rape case, where the leaked documents showed everything - but proving it without those leaked documents was quite difficult. One can always question the veracity of leaked docs - but so far, years later, Rui Pinto has been charged with over a hundred counts of 'illegally accessing information', but not one single count of falsified information. Over 70 million documents were released, and not one has been shown to be anything but legit.

Im not so sure, i suspect that the PL might have some hard evidence on a samll percentage of the charges but are throwing the 100 plus charges at City to make it look worse for City (a common prosecutors tactic) and because they might get lucky to get some thing to stick. This also encourages the accused to take a plea deal (doubt city will do this)

Also could be the same for some of not providing information charges, e.g. if City has challenged their right to get Docs in court (which they did i think) then can the PL claim this is not cooperating ? its hard to see that standing up to scrutiny as it would be City exercising a legal right.

It all depends on the detail of the charges, what specifically the PL is alleging City did for each individual charge, and there is an onus for the PL to nake that public now (that may not be allowed by the process - I'm not sure)

An interseting question would be if the PL can stick City with a subset of charges say 10 for the sake of argument then what happens ? What punishemnt will people accept?

podcast link not working - you got another? I'm a bit shite at twitter.

Beautiful thank you!

Very good game , City deserved the win , I am not sure that was a pen by Ederson.

Sheffield United in the semi. Are McAtee and Doyle eligible?

Thought Liverpool deserved the win but It's back in our hands now.

There def a loss and draw in that Arsenal team,anything but a loss to Arsenal and City well in it. I tihnk City could win all there games from here.

I think most would fancy Pep from here on in, he has done it before against a better team.

Haaland very unselfish for the Silva goal, alot of strikers would have taken a shot themselfs.

Bayern had there chances and Ederson done very well espically against Sane , tie should be all but over but cant take it for granted either.

I'd say so

Has the Brighton game (was supposed to be this weekend but FA Cup semi on instead) been re-arranged yet?

Great result for city last night, pep changed the formation/tactics with the intention to throw off Arsenals game plan and it worked.

While its far from done, that puts us in the driving seat three in a row is possibly on the way (still 21 points to play for )

I wonder what will pep do for the Madrid game

1. what we have been doing latley with 3 at the back and stones swapping between def and midfield
2. what we did against arsenal using the press against them with the Haaland outball and DeBrynue playing just off him

I suspect we should go for optioon 1 I'm not sure if Madrid will press us like Aresnal and we have been great latley with playing that system

Thoughts ?

I think he goes same as the quarters. We just need to get out of the bernabeu with a draw, even a one goal loss isnt the worst. I dont fear madrid, we should have gone through last year surely the lads wont make the same mistakes.

Why only 1 post on this thread after what was probably one of the great European performances ?

I tuned into the thread to see what city fans were saying.

Jez, can't believe there isn't more posts. Destroyed the European Champions with one of the best CL performances ever, and that's it?

Had Liverpool or Utd done that last night, there'd be hundreds of posts

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I grew up in a town of 5,000 people during the 1970s & 1980s. There were eight other Manchester City fans. Two of them were a few years older than me and started following in the late 1960s era (league, FA Cup, ECWC). Three of us were late 70s bandwagon jumpers (league runners-up 1977 & Malcolm Allison era). The others came on board a bit later. There were a number of City supporters clubs in Ireland at the time. They used to advertise meetings in the Evening Herald. The nearest one to me was in Waterford. My cousin moved to Manchester in 1980 and was a season-ticket holder at Maine Road from day 1. He would get me tickets for games - went over a few times in the 90s. I remember him making the point that if you ask people about 1968, all that's mentioned is Man United's European cup win, 10 years after Munich. Nobody ever references City winning the league title.

I agree that the vibe on Boards is very negative towards City. I also remember that RTE's Premiership programme would never make them part of the main feature unless it was the derby.