Russia - threadbanned users in OP

This is why you want me banned, i am running rings around the pro war posters, too easy, all of you afraid of fact and to counter my posts, so cry for a ban😂🤣

Here's a fact for you. Russia doesn't even have an operational equivalent 5th generation fighter. They have a handful of near prototypes, you can even see exposed riveting on them for feck's sake. India, Russia's "friends" once a partner willing to buy 100's of them have backed out of that deal, because they could see it was a uncooked turkey. The Yanks at least have fully operational 5th generation fighters and a couple of different types, and as your linked article points out were designed to go head to head with Russian forces in a European theatre.

What has Russia got? Capable enough 4th gen kit, but no real match for Western kit. They'd be targetted before their opponents even showed up on their now out of date radar. They do have the Mig 31. Based on the old Mig 25 that was once feared by the West, until one was nicked by a Russian seeking asylum in the West. It was found to be not nearly the threat they thought. That said and ironically the Mig 31 is a very nice bit of kit indeed. Very fast, very high flying and has very long range missile capabilities on top. If there were ever open warfare with NATO the irony would be the once feared Foxbat update would likely be the platform that could cause the most headaches.

Russia has stunned NATO with the amount of missiles it has used in the war, many years of westers MIC manufacturing capacity launched month after month with no let up.

NATO has been far more "stunned" by the amount of artillery shells involved. Though it has long been known Russia as part of her military doctrine held huge stockpiles of same. They still operate the quantity has a quality of its own doctrine.

Hypersonic missiles are more of a "wunderwaffe" and like those in WW2 were either too small in number or not nearly so effective in reality that their effectiveness is far more as a propaganda tool and I have found Russians and their supporters do talk a lot about such weaopns. The latest I've heard directly is Russia has only used their outdated kit and just you wait and see. Plus talk of "secret cities" in Russia developing and storing all these wonder weapons.

Put it another way; how many has Russia used in this war? What they have used were air launched glide types and only a tiny handful and even here confirmation is dubious. There were videos of these in action, but the fact there were proves the vids were of non hypersonic missiles. You're not getting an iphone vid of anything motoring at Mach 10. Their hypersonic cruise types are not close to being in service. They've had to go to Iran for missile supply which doesn't sound like a nation of advanced missiles.

What does NATO, or more specifically America have? Hard to say. They were open about hypersonic systems both manned and unmanned, but went quiet about it, nigh on overnight. Though one project got nearly a billlion dollars allocated a few years ago.

They've done this sort of thing before. Stealth being the obvious one. Much scuttlebutt about it in the 70's, then silencio, until F-117's and B-2's got wheeled out. Ironically much of the stealth theory was Russian, but they didn't or couldn't develop it, or just didn't see the utility/cost benefit. The US generally has so much spare cash down the back of the sofa and an extensive and well dug in "black project" setup to allow for more oddball stuff.

Put it another way; when The Beatles were breaking America in black and white on the Ed Sullivan show the yanks put this in the air on the quiet. They even had a drone of the type.

It's actually Russia's "dumb" old style artillery that's the bigger headache by far. This war is an old style and horrific slugfest on the ground. Beyond propaganda wunderwaffe are generally only of any use when they're no longer a wunder and it's often the case other platforms take over. EG the SR71 above was later essentially sidestepped by spy satellites and its role became much narrower. Stealth is kinda similar. The stealthiest stealth platforms are not as popular these days, instead pretty stealthy, or stealthy enough is the way of things.

Oh and BTW ICBM's are hypersonic. It's how they work and America and others have plenty of them. If Russia were hitting western European/NATO cities we're in full on WW3 and all bets are off and game over for the northern hemisphere, but one thing is sure Russia would also be a cratered graveyard of radioactive corpses.