Time for a zero refugee policy? - *Read OP for mod warnings and threadbans - updated 11/5/24*

Like Harris yesterday he wants to land grab off the Catholic Church.

It's not going happen, he might as well be touting building reception centres on the moon.

But he knows that.

Also the questions he poses he well knows well the answer to, if it were a genuine article he would explain why and offer tangible solutions within the remits of the law.

Sorry I'm going to have to go ahead and disagree with Michael on that. No passport then you are not accepted. If FF or other mainstream parties can not make that happen then it's time to vote for those that can.

If there's a treaty preventing this it needs shoving where the sun don't shine.

The PC term is "vulnerable areas", as dubbed by the Swedish state.

I'm guessing your angle here though is to downplay said areas, on the ridiculous basis that you must physically observe them for them to be real. Even the Swedes have gotten past denial, but sadly some people are still hanging there, denying the most obvious of things.

The lazy attack on the source and not the substance. If I posted the same thing from a Swedish source, what difference would it make? Do you have anything to dispute about the article in question?

Even Wikipedia has the same info, using Norwegian and Swedish news sources:

"A vulnerable area is described as being geographically defined and having a low socioeconomic status and criminals negatively affecting society. The three categories of vulnerable area are divided according to severity: vulnerable areas, risk areas and especially vulnerable areas.[12]"

"These areas are sometimes called no-go zones, as emergency services such as fire engines and ambulances "on occasion" cannot drive into these areas during a tense situation without a police escort as they will be attacked by criminal gangs.[3]"

Gardai are going to randomly check passports at airports now, but what happens when that person has no documentation? Are they pivoted around and marched back up the steps of the plane to be taken on a return flight? Or if that person shouts that he/she wants asylum,are we then obliged to process them?

I travelled from Kerry airport, changed at Dublin last week. I was asked for my ID. I would not be left on an internal flight without it, and I had to produce same when I landed at the internal airport. Same on the return part of the journey. I presume I wouldn't have been left board the flight without it and security or guards called if I had somehow 'lost' my ID after arriving in Kerry or Dublin...how are these people actually getting through in the first place?

How many are actually flying into Dublin Airport? Having been listening to Drivetime and the likes over the last couple of weeks, the preferred route seems to UK to Belfast, and the train or bus down to Dublin..

Yeah I don't go to certain places in Finglas, Neilstown, Darndale, Ballyer, Jobstown etc etc late at night myself either. I doubt many on here would. Dublin Bus regularly has to stop services to lots of these kips due to them being no go zones at certain times. Never really hear anyone from the right complaining about no go zones in Ireland.

Bogus asylum seekers take up space for genuine ones. I don't know why the do gooders are standing up for them.

because they aren't bogus until shown to be so by the authorities.

I posted upthread. I flew Kerry to Dublin last week, and return. I was asked for a passport or driving licence by security )or customs, I couldn't be sure). But there was no way I was being left walk off a flight arriving at either Kerry (from Dublin) or Dublin (from Kerry) without some form of iD. It's boggling what's happening here.

There's no need to take things to 11 with rhetoric that, ultimately is abused to regard anyone fleeing another country as someone who is 'roaming the streets for sexual assault and murder etc.'

The range for why someone might want to destroy their documents is potentially vast, and a lot of it is probably very simple to explain (people tell them to, they're scared and confused, and definitely not multinational lawyers, so they did). So it's unfair, and, totally unreasonable or necessary, to drive off of the extreme - Ireland has already seen how that boils over into protests and rights and attacks. Can handle this like adults: everyone who got on a plane with documentation needs to come off the plane with documentation, state sovereignty and population accountability issue, basic prosecution of fraud issue; ditch the tropisms and demagoguery imho.

that's because the do gooders don't exist.

the NGOS simply state the facts of the situation as they know them.

It's amazing how a few years of conditioning can invert reality. It's not so long ago that the whole world would have agreed that having open borders was extremism of the worst kind. It was a fantasy like view that usually didn't leave the halls of academia; spouted by naive students and a few adults who should have known better. Yet now, anyone who questions these polices is framed as radical, labeled with all the negative labels that can be found.