Cost of a United Ireland and the GFA

I disagree.

I think the prize for a British PM of sorting the Irish question once and for all will be hard to resist for any of them. The 'losing a part of the UK' will be easily outweighed by the 'it's right and proper' brigade who recently expressed their opinions via polling. Also, the ERG will happily sarcrifice NI if it means further separation from the EU.

We could arrive at a border poll with the British still not caring for NI but only their own selfish reasons.

The big picture tells you that solving the Irish question through Irish unity will encourage the Scottish independence movement and hasten the break-up of the UK at a time when the UK needs to hold together for the preservation of the monarchy and Brexit, which rightly or wrongly, are two things that the British public and politic seem very attached to.

Given the big picture, no chance of a border poll.

Smaller picture stuff Francie, smaller picture stuff. Look at the bigger things going on. Any fudge to sort out Brexit is fine by London so long as bigger picture stuff is intact.

One step at a time!

So the EU appear to have conceded what all posters who commented on it here said was absolutely impossible ie any compromise whatsoever on ECJ

Still not enough and glad Uk has still not accepted it It is though a compromise that sources say is remarkable and unique. One source said ‘wow’

well done grassroots unionist community for pushing the DUP to stay out of stormont. They must not accept this testing leak. We are now the crocodiles and we must learn from the past decades.

one step at a time!

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-protocol-customs-deal-uk-eu-b2273356.html?amp

If there is going to be a new election for Stormont, SF will do what it did last time when the subject of a UI came up, say nothing because a UI is one of the last things on many people's minds given the various crisis on going up there.

In peacetime though they love to bang on about it, but when it comes to war time electioneering, they say **** all.

Yet why endlessly talk about it during elections?

More movement in the right direction, but a long way to go.

this is probably the first time in 50 years that our community has goals to chase and is making gains. Where would we be now if our people had let the dup sell us down the river?

interesting that ni will be full of potential non-eu compliant goods. Oh deary me, how will they stop them flooding across the border - I think the uup told them how more than two years ago. We will see the lie now about this great risk to the eu. If they were telling the truth then they will obviously build customs posts at newry - but I think we all know the truth

Under the framework of 'The Protocol' which is not going anywhere. The EU compromising and doing what they said and what was said here. Unionists still saying Never Never Never.

Spin it however you wish but we all know that if grassroots unionism had not stood up two years ago then none of these ‘compromises’ you refer to from the eu would be forthcoming.

tony Connolly (mr EU) was on radio ulster this morning and it was a joy to listen to. He went so far as to say that if we can get all the other issues sorted out then it is unlikely the eu will let it collapse on ECJ.

what has happened in months, I thought was going to take years. So maybe or battle that I thought would take decades will only take a year or two. We are well fed this week already!

Much discussion in this thread about pensions etc.

someone said that this would all be put to people before any vote.

As someone who watched the lies, disinformation and general spin thrown around during Brexit.......

I suspect that the water would be so muddied that folk will vote with their hearts because their brains will be fried.

IMHO, Ireland can't afford to take on the massive unemployment bills that will land on them, along with problems like the vast majority of Teachers and civil servants in the North wont qualify for their jobs in the new Ireland because they don't have the necessary qualifications in Irish.

You are going to vote for a party that effectively want a veto for anything they don't like. from social and cultural rights to the Protocol, and in the same breath say you 'wish to live where all identities and minorities are respected'?

That just makes zero sense.

It doesn't make any sense to this man either and I would say most people in the UK and Ireland.

The Protocol is a compromise, Nationalists/Republicans/The Dublin government don't want it either in an ideal world. They want to be fully in the EU as they were, BUT are prepared to compromise by having the Protocol.

What have the belligerents in Unionism done in response to that? Insisted that they want their veto or else.

One argument ended today in the highest court in the UK Fionn. The Protocol that the UK proposed and signed up to, is lawful in the UK and the constitutional position has not changed. Which is what has been said here.

Subtle changes to some maybe but change all the same.

Back up original question. One big cost you are not counting is the impact on peace and stability and the knock on impact on things like inward investment. Leo, sf, SDLP, etc pointed out recently the impact a few checks on the border could have on peace and stability, if they were right, can you imagine what they will be telling us should there be the slightest possibility of a United ireland becoming a reality

Because of changes at international level to corporation tax, Ireland will struggle during the next decade to maintain its existing share of foreign inward investment to support existing living standards in the South. There won't be surplus foreign investment for the northern counties, and it may be counter-productive to attempt to direct it there, as MNCs may then look elsewhere.

The fallacy that there is an unlimited supply of FDI to invest in Northern Ireland should not be relied on.