Kilkenny GAA Thread

John Donnelly included in your list of players who are not hurlers but are just picked as "runners work hard"? Hard to understand that one

both of them have being a lot more successful than anybody else

mickey Walsh success rate way above anybody in killenny.

Just because he hurls for Comer does not mean he good enough

he was very poor for comer in the championship

Why are shamrocks so successful

They play hurling they use the ball they use space

They have the greatest hurler ever

They best hurling fullback

the best hurling fullforward exhibition in club all Ireland

so sticking with players that have showing they can’t do it

that’s why I said he should build a team

That’s why I said

walter gone past it showed that in junior championship

padraig poor year with club

Deegan tries hard good in winter conditions summer not so good destroyed in all Ireland

Buckley very poor year terrible year for club

Donnelly unbelievable effort to slow at the highest level

Billy Ryan very poor year with club and county

fogarty Very poor

Richie ?

mossy just not good enough played ok against Laois Westmeath a very poor Dublin team taking of in Leinster final semifinal and all Ireland

7 of these played in Belfast and we gone to win all Ireland

I don’t cod myself we lucky we In Leinster

The big one for Limerick is the Clare match this Saturday. That's the Derby match. The supporters of bith sides wouldnt expect anything less. I'd say Kiely will pick a strong team for that. The Galway match might be tame enough. Could be an easy win for Galway against a 2nd string limerick that day.

Went to 33 senior matches

all kilkenny matches for 20 years

will be in Galway tonight in Dublin last night

instead of stupid comments tell me what I have said is wrong I have giving you the facts about players performances

not one of you has criticised Conor Browne hurling for kilkenny and his performances he could not even pass a ball 5 yards

There plenty of good young hurlers coming through bring them and build a team around them all they will do if they sitting on bench watching players that had there day is walk away and who could blame them

you now going to loose Dean mason he left off panel after having a great year for a lad that does not even play on goal

I'm getting a headache reading your posts.

Ignore button! Let those one/two converse with themself!

Fitzgibbon is a brilliant competition, getting rid of January pre season intercounty competitions and giving it its on window in January is a straightforward enough solution to me, only crossover might be players involved in all Ireland club finals and that could move to before xmas in time.

In all fairness you're talking a good bit of scutter while also making the same points that have being said here time after time.

No one is going to disagree brownes hurling isn't good enough,kk have struggled for years for a consistent mid field pairing. You're on about browne and leahy and they're not even on the panel.

Cody used most of the lads you'd retire as impact players anyway.Wally,Richie,Buckley,fogarty and recently padraig haven't being always starting or if they did were subbed.

We all agree it's now or never for alan Murphy,Billy ryan and delaney. I know donnelly has suffered badly with his breathing but he is one lad that has the most potential and has a great pair of hands.

I know for a fact John Walsh couldn't translate his good club form in the county set up. Shane Walsh will hopefully be given time but some lads struggle to make the step up.

Buckley missed game time with the boro so don't know how he was terrible. I think if the boro had him against the village they would of bet them.

Fogarty was excellent against tullaron in the park and got a few points last year

I've being on about Owen wall a few years and I would of liked to have seen him in but he obviously declined the offer.

Ballyhale are an exceptional team and we will probably never see what they have done again. 3 starting county fowards in a club team is very very rare. Paddy mullen is getting called in now after a good year I hope he takes his chance because we could do with his strength around mid field and is always good for a few scores

Ffs Darren brennan,scruff and Tallis all play outfield for their club so I don't know what you're on about mason for. I'd have Tallis as reserve keeper on what I have seen of him the last few years.

What you saw of talis he played out field mason won Leinster final and semie final for shamrocks

Buckley played enough hurling for boro

they Boro lads will tell you he played poor

owen wall had hip scraped.

hopefully back to best this year I would agree a good hurler

in fairness never mentioned Leahy really he never good enough either

I saw John Walsh score 1-10 from play in fresford for kilkenny in walsh cup

he a scoring forward better than

ryan

mossy

Brazil

walter

they might get you a pint or 2

you talk about scutter how can you say you know John walsh would not make it

Buckley missed one game

its time a few of you wake and realise it’s 7 years and if we keep with this crowed it will be a long time because this crowed have showing not good enough take TJ out and we at arse of garden

Donnely great trier when has he scored more than 2/3 pints

The Harty Cup is unique. I do agree that the standard is over blown at times. But its a fantastic competition. The sheer number and variety of contenders lately has made it even bigger. Rugby schools like CBC and Ard Scoil Ris ( was and is a big Munster rugby senior A school) competing regularly and Tulla and Cashel winning over the past 2 years..First time winners.

St Kierans are a storied school but how many times have they cruised through Leinster to peak for an All Ireland semi and final. Abit like Kilkenny senior teams. I'm a huge fan of Kilkenny and really like this forum.

Yes, O' Connell was good.

Terrific to see so many Kilkenny players on all teams, lads I have barely heard of and yet mannning positions on strong Fitz teams. Shows Kilkenny pound for pound still produces. UL look ridiculously strong.

I felt sorry for Brennan, made up 20 metres chasing down the guy then ends up tripping him. A microcosm of how things are going for him!!

I have never bought in to "cruise along and peak for an AI final stuff". Cushy runs to an All Ireland finals at any grade on balance do not favour participating teams. Hurling history is littered with teams that cruised out of their provinces only to get chinned in finals or semis. Limerick would have been far more vulnerable to getting done in final last year if they had cruised to final instead of being put to the pin by Clare and Galway.

You need to be tested along the way or there's a very good chance you won’t be able when you have to really step up.

Not interested in any "Munster hurling me arse" BS debate but the reality is that weak provinces tend to produce vulnerable finalists.

Kilkenny's record in All Ireland finals improved steadily as Leinster got stronger, initially with Wex in 50s, then Offaly and on in to Galway 15 years ago.

Conversely, Kilkenny and other Leinster reps regularly got beaten from the mid 30s to mid 50s because the standard of hurling in province was poor.

The standard of schools hurling in Leinster is better than you give credit for. I'd be fairly confident Offaly Schools or a full strength Kieran’s wouldbeat either of this year's Harty finalists and the other 5-6 teams in Leinster wouldn’t be remotely outmatched against this year’s other Harty teams.

It is the reverse in schools rugby where there is huge hype about the Leinster Schools Cup but the standard in the less hyped Munster and Ulster competitions is every bit as good.

11 All-Irelands, 18 Leinster titles, and 10 National Leagues in his 24 inter-county seasons.