Russia - threadbanned users in OP

This rumour has been circulating for a few months now - hopefully there is some truth to it, but the ball is in Jordans court...

People, and the media, got all hung up on a few dozen leopard 2 tanks going to Ukraine but seem to have no interest in potentially hundreds of challenger 1 tanks going.

An updated C1 is probably a better tank than the Leopard 2a4 - at least in terms of armor. It's miles ahead of the 1a5 and far better than most if not all Russia tanks.

They're British made so Scholz can do SFA about it if another country decides to buy and send them. The only thing I'd imagine as a real practical hangup is the logistics for a 40 year old tank.

Is supporting these tanks even logistically possible? I'd imagine not many countries would have spare parts for them lying around. Would be sweet if possible though.

Thought this is quite apt.

Don't dis plastics. If you made a tank hull out of thick enough Dyneema (UHMWPE), it would probably be tougher while weighing a third or less the weight. Might be costly.

Some of these are posters who have previously claimed that e.g. Russia weren't killing civilians in the invasion or that the US was somehow behind it and so on. Reductionists and revisionists who pander to simplistic narratives rather than reality. The "smarter" ones create new accounts or are just happy to play a cautious role of contrarian in the threads.

Competing to see who can be the biggest failure apparently

"The head of the Wagner mercenary group repeatedly criticized the Russian military leadership. Defense Minister Shoigu is also in the firing line. This is now apparently sending fighters from the Patriot military company to the Donbass. The security company is considered a competitor of the Wagner group.

According to Ukrainian sources, after the Wagner group, Moscow is moving another group of mercenaries to the Donbass. Accordingly, fighters from the private military company Patriot were sighted near Wuhledar in the Donetsk region. This was announced by Serhii Cherevatyi, spokesman for the eastern group of the Ukrainian armed forces, according to the online portal Ukrajinska Pravda in a TV interview. The information cannot be independently verified."

""In particular, in the Stepne area on the Wuhledar front, we noticed that in addition to the Wagner group, the Patriot military company, associated with the current Russian Defense Minister Shoigu, also appeared," Cherevatyi said. "Obviously they pull all combat powers in order to achieve at least a few successes." Asked about rumors of a conflict between the two mercenary companies, Cherevatyi said that the Wagner group and the Patriot company were competitors. However, both would currently be deployed on different front sectors."

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I saw that, it's disputed. Meanwhile this stuff is constantly flying over poor Moldova, who've always been next on the list for the Kremlin

What it takes to fly an F16 This Is How Long It Would Really Take Ukraine's Pilots To Convert To F-16s (thedrive.com)

The talk of Russian attrition has quietened down somewhat in the last while. I don't exactly know what to make of Wagner no longer recruiting from prisons and while today was another bad one the frequency of rocket attacks has noticeably abated at least. But quantity still seems to be on their side, for now.

Waiting them out looks more and more like the least favourable (but the only real) option at the moment. They need to be kicked out and hard or they will just keep coming.

There has been plenty of mentions of it here but the Putinbots like to ignore it. They place the same value on all lives, I.e. none. They just don’t care.

Many are mines and boobytraps deliberately set in household furniture, pianos, behind doors, in gardens. They have to make a children's cartoon because of the callous depravity of the Russian military.