Six Nations 2023 - Ireland v France Match Thread, Sat 11th Feb, KO 2:15PM - TV: RTÉ2, ITV, France2

ujjjjjjjjj · 11-02-2023 5:49pm

It is time to start believing folks. To put that performance in today with potentially Sheehan, Furlong and Henshaw to come back in was something else.

Farrell knows we left a few scores out there too. Scoreline if anything flattered the French. Last 20 mins they were gone.

5 to 1 to win the wcup ?? I have seen worse bets.

hynesie08 · 11-02-2023 5:54pm

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I wouldn't, but if you told me we'd do it while holding them to a single try instead of 34-31, then I'd ask.

Faugheen · 11-02-2023 5:59pm

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I must have watched a different game because I honestly thought Murray played really well, especially in the first half.

Casey was great when he came on, but I find the constant punching down of Murray excrutiating because it has zero basis in reality.

Sitamoia · 11-02-2023 6:06pm

Lads, where's the best place to rewatch the whole game?

Had to work unfortunately

KaneToad · 11-02-2023 6:06pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120229388#Comment_120229388

I think Murray made the wrong choice more times than he usually would. Went the wrong side, went for the line etc...

He's still no.2 Irish SH in my opinion. (Park being no1)

KaneToad · 11-02-2023 6:08pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120229341#Comment_120229341

And Park missing too.

LowOdour · 11-02-2023 6:11pm

Would people sacrifice a championship/Grand Slam to give Byrne/Crowley/Casey/O Toole etc 3 full test challenges for the rest of the 6N?

lawred2 · 11-02-2023 6:11pm

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Demolished?

ujjjjjjjjj · 11-02-2023 6:12pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120229430#Comment_120229430

Yup good point

KaneToad · 11-02-2023 6:13pm

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No. We play our best team available. We introduce subs as required & allow players to come in to cover injuries as needed.

stephen_n · 11-02-2023 6:14pm

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13 point victory with quite a few points left behind. I think we fairly demolished them alright.

KaneToad · 11-02-2023 6:17pm

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We need to improve our drives for the try line. We were held up too many times - we were far too high and made it far too easy for defender to get under us.

blackcard · 11-02-2023 6:20pm

*Scrum went well today

*Ross Byrne had another capable performance

*Tom O'Toole prominent in the loose*

*Doris brilliant

*van der Flier put in an energy sapping performance

*Kelleher back

*We missed a lot of tackles

*We weren't clinical from 5 yards out and got held up over the line

*We deservedly beat the number 2 side in the world with a bonus point victory

stephen_n · 11-02-2023 6:22pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120229470#Comment_120229470

I thought it was brilliant from Baille to get under Porter. Murray’s one, Dupont held up his momentum and he was isolated. They are very fine margins. It’s a bit like the first NZ game when you are manufacturing those opportunities, it’s a positive.

Cateym · 11-02-2023 6:24pm

The most positive aspect of this win for me, was that our bench did incredibly well. We were down to our 3rd or 4th choice players in some positions and still hugely competitive.

lawred2 · 11-02-2023 6:28pm

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Game was still in the balance on seventy minutes.

Bit bombastic to declare France as having been demolished.

lawred2 · 11-02-2023 6:32pm

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Yes. The squad depth is exceptional. The quality doesn't fall off a cliff with the bench being emptied.

The speed at which Ireland turn defence into attack is a joy. It's an emotional drain for an opposition to both try to break Ireland down while equally ensuring that you can't turn it over as you'll immediately be backpedalling at speed.

stephen_n · 11-02-2023 6:33pm

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Do you think at any point France looked like winning that? In the balance on the Score board yes but that was only down to brilliant defence by France and some generous reffing around red zone penalties when defending too.

11-02-2023 6:35pm

Had to watch on delay so no forums or social media etc, thought that was an incredible game. The intensity was off the charts. Thought we were magnificent, the players and coaches can be extremely proud of that.

lawred2 · 11-02-2023 6:36pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120229513#Comment_120229513

Well given that they proved they could turn loose ball into a credible break on multiple occasions you'd have to have been wary of a sucker punch when 6 points ahead with less than ten minutes on the clock!

kowloonkev · 11-02-2023 6:38pm

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Speaking of the rankings, they are a bit volatile in rugby. If we had drawn against France they would have overtaken us. Bizarre. If we had been beaten by more than two tries, we would have been overtaken by New Zealand and South Africa and dropped to fourth. Don't know what they were smoking when they came up with that algorithm.

letsbefair · 11-02-2023 6:46pm

Andrew Porter answered all the detractors !!

Cosmo Kramer · 11-02-2023 6:46pm

Not much between the top 4 in the world so the algorithm is probably just reflecting that to be honest.

Suggestions of throwing a potential slam to prepare for a World Cup are absolute madness. We've won three slams ever. The World Cup will look after itself later in the year.

With a 5-0 match points win over France in the bag it will be hard for us not to win the Championship from here. Could probably lose one game and still win it.

The key to the slam will be keeping 15 on the field for the remaining games. If there are no stupid red cards we should do it.

Former Former Former · 11-02-2023 6:48pm

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For all their flair and offloads, France had about 20 minutes of sustained possession and had to settle a drop goal.

Apart from their try, did they ever really threaten our line?

Whereas we got held up three times (if not more) and only Dupont's freakish strength kept Hansen out.

We were great value for the win and tbh the scoreline may have flattered them.

maximus15 · 11-02-2023 6:50pm

Of course bbc only highlight an angle that lowes foot was in touch and nothing about english ref chickening out of a red card.

Cosmo Kramer · 11-02-2023 6:51pm

Logan tripping over herself to highlight that point over anything else. Then says Scotland would go top tonight with a BP win, which is wrong. Usual nonsense from her.

WeleaseWoderick · 11-02-2023 6:53pm

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If Ireland lost by 4 tries to 1 and that score in Paris, we wouldn't be hearing about the game being in the balance.

We lost by far less of a margin last year and some took it as conclusive proof France were the better team...

Enjoy the win, the potential championship and maybe grand slam and let's accept we actually are the best team in the world!

stephen_n · 11-02-2023 7:00pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120229523#Comment_120229523

I can’t really think of any occasion that they looked like scoring. Even when they had a good patch. So bar one lucky break where our defence lapsed poorly they never looked like scoring a try. We scored 4 tries to 1. Last year they beat us by six and we were told we were demolished. The scoreboard very much flatters France.

lawred2 · 11-02-2023 7:02pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120229628#Comment_120229628

Well I would equally have disagreed with whoever claimed we were demolished last year.

lawred2 · 11-02-2023 7:06pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120229590#Comment_120229590

Imagine trying to make that the talking point after THAT game.

Pathetic.

Burkie1203 · 11-02-2023 7:14pm

Doris carrying star today are nuts

lawred2 · 11-02-2023 7:16pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120229676#Comment_120229676

He really stepped up and took control of the game in the second half. Real leadership.

lawred2 · 11-02-2023 7:19pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120229686#Comment_120229686

It's actually the national broadcaster up north like.

JRant · 11-02-2023 8:07pm

Ross Bryne had an excellent cameo for the last 30 odd minutes. Take a bow.

All_in_Flynn · 11-02-2023 8:07pm

That was a seriously impressive performance.

Silly me doubted Farrell and the lads given the absentees. We were down to 3rd and 4th choice players and they all hit their straps and then some. It's an absolute testament to the coaching team and players. Irish Rugby really is in a fantastic place.

I was very nervous before the game but 5 minutes in and I was confident we would win. Some massive performances. Doris and VDF never seem to be off the screen. They are absolutely everywhere, in attack and defence, all of the time.

Doris was all over the French pack. What a player.

I just can't help but smile watching Keenan play. He's like a quicker Ben Smith. He's the complete fullback.

That performance confirms my thoughts that we showed absolutely nothing in the Autumn Internationals. Players were in preseason mode.

I think we can really look forward to the world cup now. We got an awful draw but imagine what the other nations in our side of the draw must be thinking!? Nobody will want to play us in our current form.

crisco10 · 11-02-2023 8:11pm

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I thought France played into irelands hands a bit. They kicked at goal from pretty much every penalty within 40m, and missed the chance to build maul pressure in the Irish 22. And they did have a few decent mauls further out the pitch, so I'd have been worried about a lineout within 10m of irish line.

It was almost old fashioned from a tactical perspective.

Ardillaun · 11-02-2023 8:22pm

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There was a patch in the second half where I had my doubts. Penaud and Dupont can score tries from anywhere.

11-02-2023 8:23pm

Lot's to take away from that.

Most of it has been covered. Sexton once again defied his age with some brilliant running rugby and incidentally Ross Byrne carried well when he came on and generally had a very good cameo (in particular in defence).

Casey similarly, very authoritative and managed the tight exchanges well - wasn't afraid to back himself either and O'Toole also offered great value off the bench.

Some stand out performance across the pack but Bealham acting the pivot shows he can replicate an increasing amount of Furlong's game. Form of his life.

Saw some criticism of the crowd, seems in the absence of something to complain about on the field the gulls turned their attention to rugby supporters. Thought the crowd was plenty vocal and from friends at the game the atmosphere was apparently sensational.

Ardillaun · 11-02-2023 8:25pm

Great squad performance, kicking and fitness. Byrne and Casey were excellent, Doris is ridiculously fit and Porter kept going and going. I thought we’d have more trouble at the scrum with such a weight differential. Lineouts and tackling can be improved. With the win under our belts, I’m pleased about the yellow card. We beat a full French team.

Strand1970 · 11-02-2023 8:29pm

Enjoy Trimble and Ferris views on the game, different perspective

Cosmo Kramer · 11-02-2023 8:32pm

Found it interesting that we continually, purposely chose to keep the ball in play with our clearance kicks. Not the obvious way to play it against those French backs but the team trusted it's defence and by and large it worked and we massively restricted France's time in our 22 as a result.

11-02-2023 8:38pm

Re. Byrne, he's been very consistent this season but having watched every minute of him for Leinster I don't really think his game is at a higher level than it was last season or the season before (and you can read that as a compliment). I'm glad he's getting his chance now but it has taken far too long imo. But as of now he has put it to bed, he's Sexton's backup, he's going to the RWC, he'll start if Sexton is out.

Doris is in WPOTY sort of form. He's absolutely outrageous.

11-02-2023 8:38pm

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And gave them no breaks in play. They were really on the back foot the last ten minutes.

Joma4good · 11-02-2023 8:43pm

Many many great performances today but both last week and this afternoon it was really pleasing to see James Ryan really back to his best, not flashy but so solid carrying and in the set piece.

Former Former Former · 11-02-2023 8:44pm

I think with Ross Byrne, when he plays well for Leinster, we just say "sure anyone would look good behind that pack" and don't give him enough credit. He was excellent today.

pc7 · 11-02-2023 8:47pm

Just home, Jesus I enjoyed that so much, don’t care about what went wrong, any mistakes and of that! Enjoyed every fecking bit, had super French fans beside us, had great chat after. Will watch it again in the morning and digest it all then. Raging hadn’t my dad with me for that first half alone is why I absolutely love rugby.

seagulls in here tonight ‘suck my balls’

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apologies ban me tomorrow!

Allez les verts!!!

11-02-2023 8:52pm

I think that is one of the best Ireland performances I've ever seen. Am I getting carried away?

stephen_n · 11-02-2023 9:06pm

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France and Toulouse both play the same way. They always kicked penalties when they get them. They did it last year in Paris too.

FrancieBrady · 11-02-2023 9:09pm

Hopefully that's just a precaution for Beirne

stephen_n · 11-02-2023 9:16pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120229910#Comment_120229910

Yet they didn’t really threaten our line. I can’t think of any tries they left out there?

There was a time around 60 minutes where we looked tired. The bench made its impact though and we drove on from there.

France were relying on moments of genius from one or two players.

Six Nations 2023 - Ireland v France Match Thread, Sat 11th Feb, KO 2:15PM - TV: RTÉ2, ITV, France2

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