Ireland running out of accommodation for Ukrainian refugees due to surge in non-Ukrainian refugees?

JPCN1 · 12-02-2023 2:43pm

Link to what?

He took the job… are you saying poor Rodders was forced into it?

Cluedo Monopoly · 12-02-2023 2:55pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120231868#Comment_120231868

At least reply to my post so I know you replied.

Now, you said "O'Gorman wanted the role"

Prove it sunshine.

JPCN1 · 12-02-2023 3:32pm

He took it ergo he wanted it unless you are going to claim he was forced to take it by nasty FFG?

72sheep · 12-02-2023 4:06pm

Usual RTE coverage casually describing Irish people as "anti immigrant" when Irish people are anti our govmt's immigration policy.

If O'Gorman was doing something FG/FF/Brussells did not approve of they'd stop him dead. As for poor Roderick being swamped under, how well he's still finding time to bring forward new gender education for primary school children.

Cluedo Monopoly · 12-02-2023 4:12pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120232046#Comment_120232046

Jesus Christ. That's your proof? Ergo 😂

I am already discussing this on another thread so I am going to repeat a post from there.

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Aragh Fine Gael promised to end direct provision in both the 2016 and 2020 general elections. They also created the housing disaster and have been in power for 12 years. How was an inexperienced Green TD given this role? A normal company would not give a major project to a junior newbie.

Aren't his decisions implicitly approved by cabinet and the 2 clueless taoisigh? Where has Michael and Leo disagreed with his policy? Why havent they replaced him with someone more competent?

Let's be a bit adult about all this. None of the Greens should have this role.

FF TDs have Health, Housing and Finance and they are struggling in the first two bigtime. Time for FG TDs to step up. They just want portfolios that make them look good. Useless.

The likes of Doherty and Ring giving out about O'Gorman on the airwaves this weekend - oh **** off you cowardly gombeens. Zero honour in that. Just populist BS.

And I do not vote Green!

I would give it to one of the following experienced TDs.

Simon Coveney

Simon Harris

Paschal Donohue

Heather Humphreys

Josepha Madigan

Patrick O'Donovan

Martin Heydon

Even Richard Bruton.

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Kermit.de.frog · 12-02-2023 4:57pm

This is whataboutery though. Fact is the Green Party accepted the portfolio and have abjectly failed.

It doesn't really matter at this point as the Greens will be slaughtered at the next election anyway and not just for this sh!tshow.

Ten of Swords · 12-02-2023 5:05pm

Mod - Stick to the topic of this thread, there have been several such mod notes on this thread that are being routinely ignored by a select few posters to this will be the final one.

Dragging the thread off topic = threadban

Cluedo Monopoly · 12-02-2023 5:05pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120232452#Comment_120232452

No it's not. That's a very simplistic argument. Having O'Gorman in charge is not set in stone. Leo can change his cabinet at any time. We had 4 FF ministers for Agriculture during the first 2 months of this govt.

Admit the mistake and move on. Put a senior FG member in there. Own it.

It's not about the Greens getting destroyed at the next election either. They will be destroyed but who cares at that point. We don't need an "I told you so" moment for something so important. The country comes first, not Green electoral prospects or O'Gorman's reputation. Irrelevant.

For example he wrote to his cabinet colleagues.

No offers of accommodation following O'Gorman appeal (rte.ie)

No offers of refugee accommodation following O'Gorman appeal

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Feck that letter shiit. You want an experienced minister who will knock head together. Pick up the phone, raise hell in cabinet etc. Truth is, none of the FG posers will go near this.

We need action now. Today.

Geuze · 12-02-2023 5:35pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120231451#Comment_120231451

Sympathy for O'Gorman?

Wasn't it his Dept / him who sent the translated documents to Georgia / Albania, etc., promising own-door accomm for AS within four months of arrival?

He caused this mess, by inviting bogus AS to arrive here.

Cluedo Monopoly · 12-02-2023 5:52pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120232619#Comment_120232619

I have zero sympathy for O'Gorman. Get him out, get a senior FG TD in. O'Gorman isn't up to the job.

However I am not naive enough to allow backbench FG TDs use him as a scapegoat and let him take all the heat. Nasty politics. Let the FG cowards front up for this one and let's see what happens.

Get O'Gorman out and put one of the list in charge.

minimary · 13-02-2023 6:21pm

""You’ve got the guts of about 11,500 to 12,000 people in pledged accommodation at the moment and the idea is to try and bring that right up further to 15,000-16,000 if possible."

Speaking on RTÉ’s Today with Philip Boucher Hayes, Mr O’Dwyer said that modular housing, the renovation of older buildings by the Office of Public Works and the local authority vacant house scheme are providing more accommodation opportunities."

https://www.rte.ie/news/ireland/2023/0213/1356340-refugees-migration/

maninasia · 13-02-2023 7:35pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120236978#Comment_120236978

Still have 4000 a month entering.

BoxcarWilliam99 · 13-02-2023 9:07pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120236978#Comment_120236978

The soon to be developed Mahon modular homes are on public land in the town. Land that was earmarked for public housing for the people of Mahon . Not anymore but sure let them wait another few years

conorhal · 14-02-2023 2:08pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120232669#Comment_120232669

O' Gorman always has the option as the minister responsible to say, 'that he recommends Ireland withdraw from the voluntary re-settlement program it has agreed to participate in with the EU and we will no longer be processing asylum requests from Ukrainians for a set period of time, sorry, we're full. In the meantime the focus of the department will be on clearing application backlogs and removing failed applicants to ensure the space for genuine refugees is available. If you don't care for my recommendation you can have my resignation'.

He could do that, but he won't, and thus if he's been thrown under any bus he's there voluntarily.

Strazdas · 14-02-2023 2:53pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120239555#Comment_120239555

O'Gorman cannot recommend anything. That would be 100% a decision for the Cabinet to make and completely outside his own remit.

conorhal · 15-02-2023 10:37am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120239741#Comment_120239741

Yeah, the minister in charge can't make a policy reccomendation to the cabinet? Get up the yard with that nonsense!

Cluedo Monopoly · 15-02-2023 11:49am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120239555#Comment_120239555

What options do Leo (Taoiseach) and Michael (Tanaiste) have? Do they have tongues? Move on from O'Gorman please. The 2 senior members of the cabinet had zero problem speaking over Donnelly throughout Covid when the health minister was out of his depth. Why are they hiding now?

rgossip30 · 16-02-2023 6:38am

Poland has mentioned return or work for Ukranian refugees .I believe other EU states will change their attitudes and get more strict on both Ukranians and asylum seekers . The Ukranians in those EU states can easily just come to Ireland if conditions are better. Likewise asylum seekers will just pass to Ireland .

realdanbreen · 16-02-2023 9:47am

I see far right activist loyalist (or despicable cnut) Tommy Robinson(who changed his name from Stephen Yaxley Lennon ,not British enough apparently)is due to visit Ireland to join up with our homegrown ant immigration protesters. He is being warmly welcomed be Dee Wall among others.

realdanbreen · 16-02-2023 10:32am

It will be interesting to see how the tricolour draped self proclaimed "Irish patriots" reconcile having the British far right self proclaimed loyalist and royalist Tommmy Robinson on the same platform!

.Donegal. · 16-02-2023 10:36am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120247200#Comment_120247200

Irish parents, changed surname, says he feels absolutely no connection to Ireland. Bit weird then why the son of immigrants who has zero connection to Ireland would come to a foreign country to protest against immigrants/refugees/asylum seekers.

Bit weird why those constantly crying about being labelled far right are happily welcoming a man who joined a political party that banned white people from joining. Robinson's criminal record also includes convictions for violence, financial and immigration frauds, drug possession, and public order offences including kicking a police officer in the head as he lay on the ground. That’ll really help with the public image lads.

realdanbreen · 16-02-2023 10:40am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120247384#Comment_120247384

Sounds like he should fit right in!

rgossip30 · 16-02-2023 11:06am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120216592#Comment_120216592

Compassion is that for real or is one into satire.

Patrick2010 · 16-02-2023 11:14am

Afghan refugee taking the government to court for not providing him with accommodation, aided by (paid by) the Irish Refugee council.

https://www.rte.ie/news/courts/2023/0215/1356857-courts-asylum/

Seems he was determined to come to Ireland judging by the number of safe countries he came through. Why hasn't he been sent back to France yet?

He crossed the border into Iran in August 2021 and later arrived in Turkey, where he worked in a clothes factory for six months. He then crossed into Bulgaria and walked to Serbia where he spent seven months before traveling to France in a container and spending seven months in the migrant camp in Calais known as "the jungle".

He was transported to Ireland in a container that left Cherbourg and arrived here on 28 January.

In judicial review proceedings, the man's lawyers say Ireland opted into the EU Reception Conditions Directive in 2018 and transposed the Reception Conditions Regulations, committing to providing accommodation to all applicants for international protection.

They say the failure to provide accommodation is in breach of the Directive and Regulations and a breach of the State's obligations under the European Convention on Human Rights.