Darryl Tyree Williams case

as usual another innocent man murdered for being black, headcases over there glad we dont have too much of it over here

I think you may be mixing this case up with that other case where the guy (Tyre Nichols) was beaten to death.

Regardless, even if the cops were the themselves black, a murder of a black suspect can still have a racial component - in that white suspects don't seem to get murdered quite so often by police when they aren't posing a threat as in these two cases and many many others in recent times.

Actually no. That's not the case here. You must have missed it.

Which isn't what you said.

And how do you know he was "of his head on drugs [sic]?" He was being arrested for drug possession not drug intoxication? Are you privy to an autopsy report already if so please share.

You're just lumping 100s of media outlets into the 1 narrative. Sounds like it belongs in the Conspiracy Theory forum.

Not even the 'mainstream republican' outlets agree among each other on their own narratives - and one of them was in daily contact with the POTUS.

To suggest the whole media is in on a conspiracy - the body camera footage speaks for itself though.

When there's a system failure on a ship for example, they don't go 'ah sure but 99% of the boat works perfectly well' I'm sure some quarters would love if the media waves were blasting orwellian "all is good all is calm, glorzo is peace etc" rhetoric hyping up the police as heroes and amplifying their warrior rhetoric 24/7 without closely examining the failures but that's just never how it's worked is it? 1000s of bridges work well every day but I STILL have to hear about the Tacoma Narrows on a professional basis nearly every quarter. People still have to remember the lessons from that failure, today, and hopefully forever.

Well if there's a statistical story would you mind sharing the stats on the numbers of unarmed white people killed by police?

I watched the video in the link.

Williams seemed to be a bit dopey to be honest, like someone who had taken something. He wasn't bad, just didn't seem 100% coherent.

Everything was calm, Williams was standing with his hands against the car. The cop instructed Williams that he wasn't trying to put him in handcuffs and he repeated to Williams that if he didn't keep his hands on the car he'd put him in handcuffs, which seems like a reasonable request to me.

They searched Williams and found what looks like drugs, a note with white powder in it. The cops were being fairly respectful to him at that stage. Williams then took his hands off the car and the cop then said put your hands behind your back. The cop was following up with his instruction that if Williams didn't keep his hands on the car, he would be placed in handcuffs. To be perfectly honest, I don't see the cops doing anything wrong at this point. They attempt to handcuff Williams and he keeps saying why and then it looks like he starts to resist having the handcuffs put on him.

The screen goes black for a few moments so I can't see 100% what is happening but it seems like Williams is resisting having the handcuffs put on. The next scene is the cops instructing him to get on the ground. He's clearly resisting. He won't put his hands behind his back. The cops taze him which seems justified to me. He keeps resisting and breaks away and tries to run away. He then gets tazed what appears to be a second time (hard to tell to be honest).

At 01.30 he is on the ground and won't put his hands behind his back so they taze him a 3rd time. I don't see much wrong here other than they ignore the fact that he says he has a heart condition. But how are they know if he's telling the truth or not, all while he is resisting having the handcuffs put on him.

Is saying you have a heart conditon now a thing that you can say while resisting arrest to stop the cops tazing you?

I don't see the cops having done much wrong here to be honest. He was the architect of his own misfortune. If he kept his hands on the car or if he allowed himself to be handcuffed, and if he didn't resist, he wouldn't have been tazed.

This incident is wildly different to the Tyre Nichols case.

He wouldn't let the cops handcuff him so the answer to you is yes.

The video footage is in the OP post.

I bet if he watches the video, he won't see what you seem to have seen above. It's clear as day that Williams was resisting. The cops were trying to put him in handcuffs and he was not being beat to hell.

You need to go see these guys.

I'd 'resist' too if an officer told me 'I don't wanna put you in cuffs' and then almost immediately proceeded to do just that without communication.

Whereas all the dozens of hours of LIVE PD (e.g.) I've watched indicates that when a cop knows they're being observed (as, for example, by a live television audience) they would have easily first communicated to suspect what they found and for what reasons that was putting them in handcuffs. They'll especially give a suspect ample more opportunity to verbally incriminate themselves with their reactions to the findings. All we see in the camera is a $1 Bill then it's straight to cuffing. All the drug arrests I saw on live television and they didn't ever just do this, they happily and positively indicated their evidence for the cameras and the suspect alike. Some states even recognize a right to resist an unlawful arrest ... including North Carolina.

How about that.

What leads you to believe it was an unlawful arrest?

Seems like a valid reason to arrest someone to me.

It would be so why not articulate that to begin the arrest? Why tell someone from behind you’re not going to be handcuffed if you cooperate so you do and within 10 seconds or so are being cuffed without explanation.