Anybody letting a flat to Ukrainian’s via state or Red Cross?

Over 11000 Irish registered as homeless... Charity begins at home.

I wouldn't if I was you. They are difficult people, always complainers and from the adds I see on various groups where they look for a place to rent, they mention the 800 eur like they do you a favour that state will pay you 800 quid for them. They forget who pays this 800 quid : us the taxpayer. People who get freebies like this are entitled and have no respect for your place, demanding!

My 2c

You don't rent to the Ukranians. You give them a licence. As soon as the place is empty notify the RTB that the place is no longer let. You make whatever arrangement you want regarding utilities with the Ukranians. Because they are on a licence you can terminate when you want so they can't really give you grief. It is an excellent legal way to break the rent cap.

The €800 a month scheme is not a lease, it is a licence. They can be chucked out if needed.

You'll find it very hard to get them to leave. If they want to dig in you'll find very little help to have them removed.

I would know of a property in a local town that was let to one family and it has recently been discovered that they invited two more families to live there against the knowledge or permission of the owner.

Yes on Facebook. They are just standard groups for a particular area for example : Clontarf.

The 6 months only applies where someone has been a tenant for 6 months. Since they are not tenants the 6 months is irrelevant. The Residential Tenancies Act does not apply where no rent is paid. The €800 a month is not rent so there is no qualifying lease to bring the property under the Act.

That's a lot easier said than done even under the scheme. Do you think the Red Cross are going to help? Do you think the local TD will want to get involved? The RTB can't get involved.

What you are saying is one thing however the reality is very different.

I agree. The reality is you are stuck with them if you want them out, as violin will come out.....

Not true. Unless you give them tenancy, which would be stupid in the extreme.

Whats the difference between an allowance paid by the council for a Ukranian refugee and a housing assistance payment?

Both are paid to owners, both are for housing, both are allowances. The fact that one is tax-free is a revenue matter.

So from what you're saying, if an owner received only the HAP amount from the council, then the occupant is not paying rent and that dwelling should not be under the RTA rules?

You rock up to your property with five adults and seven kids in it and say oh I need my property back at the end of the month and the response is we've nowhere to go. What then? It's not your problem but it is as they won't leave. Do you physically throw them out? How? On your own? With a few mates?

I agree with you about the hotels but I assure you new accommodation is ready to move to.

No, I've done a bit of work on my rental got a new BER cert ( made sure just when up one grade ) and now you can rent

at market value.