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Would you support a windfarm in your area?

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,596 ✭✭✭✭pjohnson




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,904 ✭✭✭✭Galwayguy35


    No

    Well the one they put not too far from where I am around 20 years ago didn't work out too good for the area so not too sure we would want to see another one.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,495 ✭✭✭Markus Antonius


    No

    There already is a giant windfarm in my area. It's ugly as hell, has been environmentally appalling for the area (trucks, dust, noise, bogs decimated, mountains plundered for foundation stone, roads ruined to facilitate cabling)

    There are no sweeteners for having them in the area (i.e. no reduced electricity bills, no share in the profit like other European countries)

    Most of the electricity going to UK...


    All in all, a horrendous experience



  • Posts: 15,362 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Yes

    100% yes

    This is the way our grid is going and it wouldn't bother me in the least.

    I've been to a few places where its not unusual to see these dotted around either solo or pairs or full farms. Just head over to the UK and you'll see loads of instances of them as you drive around the motorway network

    As for large scale deployment a la Netherlands, we'll end up going this way eventually anyway



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,808 ✭✭✭✭Water John


    Yes

    Windfarm across the road from me, no issues.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,495 ✭✭✭Markus Antonius


    No

    So you wouldn't mind so long as it's by the motorways. So in effect, you would mind having them near your house.

    Btw, the ones in my area are nowhere near a motorway.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,808 ✭✭✭✭Water John


    Yes

    DaCor expresses a distinct view in his first line. Just because OP has a different opinion doesn't mean you can alter what's said by them.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,291 ✭✭✭Ubbquittious


    No

    They have built enough wind farms for now, time to build some solar farms or nuclear instead



  • Posts: 15,362 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Yes

    Solar is coming too, I think 5GW by 2025. Every week I see more and more and more businesses announcing they are plastering their roofs with panels. Same for solar farm applications. There will also be a heap rolled out on farm buildings, there's insanely good grants for farmers for this (with conditions). The targets we set for this, we're going to blow through them as solar ramps up.

    Onshore wind is projected to double to 9GW by 2030

    Offshore wind is projected to hit 7GW by 2030, 30GW by 2050



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,808 ✭✭✭✭Water John


    Yes

    To electrify the economy and via that lower GHG emissions then we'll need about quadruple the present generational capacity of the country.

    EV and HP's mainly.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,297 ✭✭✭Count Dracula


    Yes

    seems reasonable. angst at the site of windmills seems pretty petty as far as grievances go, ask the Dutch, they have lived with them for years?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,495 ✭✭✭Markus Antonius


    No

    No strawman, like 99% of climate alarmists you would prefer someone else take the hit on all the "green initiatives"



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,808 ✭✭✭✭Water John


    Yes

    The OP's poll is giving the same result as the 'windfarm business' poll. 80% + in favour .



  • Posts: 15,362 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Yes

    Not according to my response to your poll 🤷‍♂️



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,291 ✭✭✭Ubbquittious


    No

    If they go with 9GW of onshore wind they'll have enough to run everything and saturate every interconnector when its windy but still have to burn loads of gas in the summer.

    Solar is picking up. There might be 200-300MW installed now though its hard to tell as no figures from last year when it really started to get popular. It's unlikely they'll have 5GW in by 2025



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,782 ✭✭✭Scotty #


    Yes

    What would be your preferred power source if not a wind farm?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,297 ✭✭✭walterking


    Yes

    Solar farm going in near me. I couldn't understand the nimby attitude by some locals.

    I thought they'd combine it with wind turbines too.


    The mis-information spouted is utterly amazing. It always suggests "cancer" and on the solar farm they suggested it could contribute to flooding.

    Yep, some people are gullible enough to believe it



  • Posts: 15,362 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Yes

    Maybe, planning will come into it for the large scale projects, but from what I seen in planning applications and general news releases, we will blow past 5GW with ease.

    Time will tell



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,808 ✭✭✭✭Water John


    Yes

    Run a flock of sheep under the panels and have organic lamb also.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,551 ✭✭✭AllForIt


    Yes

    I voted yes but there is already a couple within a 20/40 mile radius of my locale.

    I rather like the aesthetic look of them so no issue with them in that regard.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 862 ✭✭✭redlough


    Yes

    Why wouldn't you?

    Wind and solar is the future.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,275 ✭✭✭Billy Mays


    Yes

    80% of respondents in this thread must work for a 'windfarm business' 🙄



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 377 ✭✭walshtipp


    Yes

    Yes I would. Clean energy is a good thing, and I think they look cool.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,808 ✭✭✭✭Water John


    Yes

    The death and health issues related to air pollution will become in ways comparable with smoking. Studies of PM 2.5 now show that.

    Electrifying our lives is key.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,495 ✭✭✭Markus Antonius


    No

    And yet less than 5% support the green party...



  • Posts: 15,362 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Yes

    Its almost like supporting environmentally sound strategies doesn't require one to be a member of the GP

    Its a revelation!



  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 93,563 Mod ✭✭✭✭Capt'n Midnight


    Yes

    Because I live in a city there's zero chance of large turbines nearby. But there'll be a solar farm going up near work.

    When abroad I find wind turbines look prettier than busy smoke stacks. There used to be 9,000 windmills in the Netherlands.

    Pole really should include other options because we will need to get power from something and it has to be in place by 2030 because we have emissions targets.



  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 93,563 Mod ✭✭✭✭Capt'n Midnight


    Yes

    Solar produces power during peak daily demand for sunny half the year. Wind produces more power in the darker half of the year. They complement each other.

    Installing excess capacity is a form of backup as you can power the grid from a lower % output of a higher total installed capacity. You can also import power using earnings gained from exporting it previously. And there's grid scale storage options too.

    Our CFD's (contract for difference) run for 10 years by which time the capital costs of wind or solar would have been paid for. By the time you got a nuclear plant build here it would be competing with the marginal costs of wind and solar.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,807 ✭✭✭Birdnuts


    No

    R U seriously comparing Dutch traditional windmills to modern giant wind turbines in terms of landscape/ecological impacts??



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,807 ✭✭✭Birdnuts


    No

    Whats yours given their need for near constant conventional back up?? Coal has seen a massive resurgence in Germany thanx to the idiotic decision of Merkels former government to ditch Nuclear in favour of wind

    https://www.reuters.com/markets/commodities/energy-crisis-fuels-coal-comeback-germany-2022-12-16/



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,788 ✭✭✭Karppi


    He didn’t say that they were only ok if by a motorway. He said you could see them from the motorways. Not quite the same thing, eh?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,185 ✭✭✭screamer


    Yes. It is inevitable if we ever want to become energy independent. I don’t like them, I think they look awful, but hey, I don’t like the stench of slurry and I’ve to put up euth that every day from the local intensive dairy farms.

    it’s windmills or continuing to give power and money to some of the worst nations in the planet. Time for us all to own that, nimbys sit down, or be cold…..



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,801 ✭✭✭prunudo


    No

    Its an interesting question, I wonder what the poll results will be in 10 years time when the reality of >2000 extra turbines are surrounding the coastline and countryside.

    Also I wonder about the corrolation between those voting yes and never actually having to have one in their vicinity.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,297 ✭✭✭Count Dracula


    Yes

    What's the difference?

    Maybe we could decorate them in sky blue mock wood lace over finish?

    Do the trick on the eye sore?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 862 ✭✭✭redlough


    Yes

    Every party and independent in Ireland has a Green agenda.

    You seem to have the hump because you got "no sweeteners" 😂

    Also trying to label anyone that supports renewable energy as supporting the Green party is totally incorrect. People can fully support renewables and not have to support the Green party. Sort of rubbish comment I would expect to see in the US



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,914 ✭✭✭Rigor Mortis


    Yes

    I live in Dublin. The best chance we have of a wind farm is offshore. Would love to see the projects built in this area. Dublin is Ireland's largest energy consumer and yet produces virtually no renewable electricity.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,544 ✭✭✭KildareP


    No

    I said no, but then we are already surrounded by quite a large number of them already here in North Kildare and into Offaly and they want to install many more on the surrounding bog of Allen that is no longer cut by BNM to feed Edenderry.

    It says it all really that they threw them up around us and we were basically told to lump it. Rural roads torn asunder with heavy construction vehicles going back and forward.

    Now that they want to put them tens of kilometres off the coastline of the likes of Dublin Bay South, they suddenly deem fit to announce this wonderful scheme known as a "Community Benefit Fund" whereby the generators must make a monetary contribution per MWh sold to the market to the nearest community.

    Funny timing that.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 862 ✭✭✭redlough


    Yes

    Dublin has acres of roof space.

    All offices should have solar panels on roof, warehouses etc and that could generate power. At this moment wind would not suit unless off shore in built up cities but solar should be across the city. Especially public building/schools etc



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,819 ✭✭✭✭Thelonious Monk


    Yes

    I've no idea why anyone would be bothered by them. They're going to be putting a load of them off the coast of Dalkey and Killiney in the coming years, the Dublin Array, so this will shut the "they wouldn't put them in South County Dublin!!" people up too. We need to get our elec from somewhere, nuclear will never happen in Ireland, so in order to lessen our dependence on fossil fuels, wind and solar seems a no brainer.

    They should cover the Dublin/Wicklow mountains in them, much of them are just barren ecological wastelands of no use to anyone or anything.



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  • Subscribers Posts: 42,170 ✭✭✭✭sydthebeat


    Yes

    Would you rather see a wind turbine from your kitchen window or a power station chimney ejecting black smoke into the atmosphere.

    Unquestionably yes



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,678 ✭✭✭Multipass


    No

    No, they are devastating to the local environment. our new green future with nothing but concrete doesn’t appeal.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,392 ✭✭✭✭Furze99


    No

    Too many of them f***ing yokes around here - a blight.

    Build them up in Dublin Bay and off the coast of Malahide & Dalkey.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,782 ✭✭✭Scotty #


    Yes

    Well, I really don't know enough about any of them to give an informed answer. I don't think solar is really a viable solution in our climate, perhaps solar and wind combined? I certainly don't want us to increase coal/turf. More Hydro perhaps if we could find a suitable location.

    Nuclear I think, has more cons than pros. I don't believe we'll ever have it here, not in it's current form anyway.

    The main problem for wind in this county is NIMBY.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,226 ✭✭✭xxyyzz


    Yes

    I live pretty close to a windfarm, I have no issue with it. There is a slight swishing sound on very windy days but I don't notice it any more, my brain has filtered it out. From what I can see there is a lot of NIMBY hysteria over them but from personal experience, they're grand.

    They do seem to require a huge amount of maintenance, I guess that is normal due to the constantly moving parts however it leads me to wonder about offshore turbines. It's all very well being able to drive to the turbine to repair it but it's a completely different skillset when you have to take out a boat and transfer to a stationary platform offshore. That's no easy task when there is a swell running etc.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,819 ✭✭✭✭Thelonious Monk




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,819 ✭✭✭✭Thelonious Monk


    Yes

    I mean pretty much all of our environment is slurry covered fields producing dairy for export and people are cool with that. We need our own energy sources.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,226 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    No

    Noise, flicker, bird and bat strikes, property devaluation, but aside from those, all good.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,392 ✭✭✭✭Furze99


    No

    Do you not see a pattern in some of the replies on this thread?

    Those who vote NO have experience of living near industrial wind farms.

    Those who vote YES think it's all mom & apple pie and don't live near the things (YET).



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,819 ✭✭✭✭Thelonious Monk


    Yes

    well there's planning applications to build loads of them offshore being processed at the moment, so hopefully the ones at sea wont bother you and will spoil the views in Dublin Bay to keep you ruralites happy.



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