Pubs of Ireland (No More)

One, but one entirely new one opened. Town is ridiculously under-pubbed though, meaning most of them are barns.

Provincial towns that were massively over-pubbed still have more closures ahead as auld lads die out and sports gambling moves online

Out in the sticks in the good old days, publicans realised that they couldn't make a living just running a pub, so had a couple of other businesses running from the same property, a shop, a filling station, and sometimes a funeral business. When the owners of those businesses died out, the next generation usually ignored the back up of the other businesses, and struggled with just running the bar.

I live near Listowel, which once upon a time had about 60 bars, that had dropped to about thirty, two or three decades ago, and I think there are a hell of a lot less than that now. There seem to be more hairdressers, barbers, and tanning salons, than pubs now.

That's the application fee only.

You need to surrender another licence to get it.

No new licences without surrender have been created for 120 years

Wonder if there will come a time when the excessive amount of chemists in small towns will start to close down as well?

Nexium is a PPI,Omeprazole basically. Might be cheaper to get the generic in the Chemist.

Thirty pubs have closed in New Ross since the nineties apparently. New Ross is a small town,I can't believe there was ever more than ten pubs in the place. Must have literally been a pub on every corner.

https://m.independent.ie/regionals/wexford/news/30-pubs-closed-in-new-ross-since-the-1990s-in-major-shift-in-drinking-culture-42311540.html

Suspect a lot of the trade that has gone was related to the fertiliser factories and the port, not the permanent residents. Port workers numbers have been slashed with containerisation and automation, and it was a job with history heavy drinking too.

A lot of the local pubs don't open in the daytime now. There's a few with oul lads waiting outside first thing,the rest seem to leave it to evening.

Was the port ever that busy? One or two ships with a handful of crew hardly supported such a huge pub market.

That is a shame.

The picture painted throughout this thread seems to tell a similar story unfortunatley.

For rural Pubs at least.

I suppose the obvious new concern is that if the Pub license is to be extinguished then the value of a license will drop through the floor.

This would likley lead to more Pub owners selling up before the extinguishment occurs so they can cash in on the value of a license that would be worth zip in a year or two time.

I dont see any other outcome other than rural pubs in particular selling up asap unless they are turning a solid profit and in it for the long game.

Supermarkets will still by licences if they are ready to open.

Listing a pub won't save it.

Yes community pubs might be an outcome, maybe add a bar to community centres in rural areas etc. then open weekends with volunteer staff.

What happened was publicans and breweries gouging the crap out of people.

It'll get to 50 euro for five pints on a night out soon. Thing is some people will still pay it.

The nucleus of all of this is poncy craft beer hipster wankers willing to pay 7 or 8 euro for their slop. Inevitably breweries/publicans put up the prices of other beers and drinks too. In town the average price of a pint of Guinness is now around 6 euro, which is bloody criminal. A Heineken will cost close to 7 in a lot of places. A fucking Heineken! And it won't stop there.

The problem with all of this is that when the prices of the pint go up, they stay up. It never comes back down no matter what happens.

Now, I like a drink and I like getting out of the house. But if boozers keep going the way they are, then fuck em, let them die. Eventually there'll be some cop on and the prices might start to come down then.

Wetherspoons has the right idea, even if the owner is an absolute twat. However, they're always soulless places with absolutely no atmosphere, and they don't sell Guinness. Beamish just doesn't do it for me.

I'd say it has less to do with "habit" and more to do with cost. The price of a humble pint is shocking these days and the price increases that it's subject too is even more so.

Put it this way, if the average pint cost 2.50, there would be a LOT more young people in pubs drinking more regularly.

There is. But it's still a thing. If people are willing to spend 8 euro on a pint of Wizard's Piss in some hipster wank bar, then they'll have no problem spending 6 or more on something else somewhere normal.

That's why I said

publicans and breweries.

You don't that.

LOL

Have I upset you.

LOL. 🤣

You saw the words "poncy craft beer hipster **** willing to pay 7 or 8 euro for their slop" and missed everything else, didn't you.

Clearly, the blame lies with the

publicans and breweries gouging the crap out of people.

That includes the poncy craft beer hipster wankers.

I mean probably a good thing for the country in genera to be less centered around pubs. I am not saying that I am immune to all bad habits but oveedrinking has long been an issue for a large chunk of the population. If there are finding their spare time is better spent elsewhere that is a good thing.

Obviously we need to ensure that the social part is replaced but in 20-30 years most of the older generation won't think of a pub to socialise.

In fact this is how many could survive, inviting in board game groups and card groups etc. as a nice place to be able to meet up.

One point, some have mentioned closures going back decades, did we ever have the thing of paying workers at the pub (employer gets a kick back and pub gets workers in just as they are being payed)? Obviously a manipulative practice but an effective one.

You spent multiple posts trying to blame the drinkers of beer you don't like. Stop trying to backtrack

And in the third line, you say they've done this because of people drinking beer you don't like.

You have one hell of a chip on your shoulder about that and are exceptionally touchy about having it pointed out.

I read the lot

You are clearly very upset that some people drink beer that you don't, though.

Have you actually tried any beer not made by the main macro brewers? Which ones and how long ago?