Superbowl LVII Thread - Chiefs v Eagles

Penalty was correct at the end, Bradberry admitted to the foul so wipe those tears away.

What a comeback. MVP always loses the Super Bowl, win the toss and lose the game, down by double digits at half time, Mahomes on one ankle…and yet the Kansas City Chiefs got it done again. Amazing game and the best possible outcome.

Toney, Bolton, Pacheco, Kelce, Juju, Wylie were all superb as a supporting cast. But Patrick Mahomes is the best player in the NFL and got that second ring. More to come no doubt.

Also, this was supposed to be a down year of sorts for the Chiefs.

The rest of the AFC got stacked, and they lost Tyreek in order to free some space.

It was technically a hold but it was absolutely minimal, the only hold called all night and there wouldn’t have been a single complaint from the Chiefs side if it was let go.

FWIW I think the Chiefs deserved the win after that second half masterclass and are the better team. It’s a pity this is a talking point in what was otherwise a brilliant game.

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I know that they would still have scored but it spoiled the end of the game, the Eagles should have had a meaningful chance to even it up.

You can’t compare a no call in the first half to a ticky tacky call with under two minutes left to play that effectively ended the game. There is absolutely no comparison in terms of the impact of the officiating in both instances.

I know refs can never get everything spot on but consistency is not an unreasonable expectation. Let them play or don’t, but this type of cherry picking of when to strictly apply the rules leaves a bad taste for a lot of people.

Again that is not to take away from the Chiefs who were awesome in the second half.

It's two games in a row where calls favoured the Chiefs though. Remember the down that was played again?

It's ruined the Superbowl. The Chiefs would probably have won anyway but the Eagles never got an opportunity to try tie it up.

It was a very light tug, it didn't affect the play. They are rarely called but it gets called to basically end the Superbowl, it's bullshit.

No need for me to reply and say the same as this, good summation 👍🏼

Or give everyone their rings, walking past the trophy, at the end of the line the QB/MVP and owner get their rings and lift the cup together. I hate seeing owners lift it before the team as well.

Yup... an easy enough fix would be to have the Owner be the one who presents it to the QB. Sure, the owner wouldn't get quite the same spotlight and would have to wait a bit for their own little speech, but he'd still be involved in the moment, and the whole thing would feel an awful lot more climactic.

In hindsight you are saying that the replayed down didn't affect the game.

Firstly we didn't know that at the time. Secondly it cost a few seconds which could have been vital.

Last night's decision should never have been called. It didn't stop the receiver, it didn't affect the play in any way. It's a no call at least 90% of the time.

Did you have the same opinion about the no calls in the Rams v Saints NFC championship game back in 2018?

Also you are making up ideas about my post. I never said the Chiefs are always getting favourable calls. I just pointed out that they got one in the AFC championship and one in the Superbowl. There were some calls made against the Chiefs in that AFC championship game too.

I also said that I don't think the Eagles would have managed to tie or win the game but they should have had the chance.

You have some cheek accusing me of saying the Chiefs always get favourable calls.

Fully agree on Mahomes but it's very similar to Brady in that he has a great coach with him.

I've been banging on for a long, long time that the only coach close to Belichick is Andy Reid. I've been saying it since he was in Philly with Donovan McNabb.

Mahomes threw the ball away. There was an admission that he did grab him but hoped he'd get away with it because it wasn't egregious. As I said it didn't stop the player or affect the play in any way. Those are let go at least 90% of the time. If they called things like that all day everyday a game would last five hours.

As for your first paragraph, that couple of seconds could matter come the end of a tight game where a TD is needed. It might mean one more play.

But that's probably because the cup is being handed to the owner instead of to Mahomes.

Well you are seeing something completely different to me as regards Juju and Bradberry. There contact which is allowed and that slows him down but there's no affect from the very minor short pull.

As regards the second one, and it's unreal how you always come up with something to do with Brady who you clearly hate, do you not think Brady knew he had a free play?

It's rarely called is the issue, nothing to do with when it was called. Football fans want consistency and that's the issue here.

The issue those who don't watch the game much is that it ended the game. Then sports stars like LeBron James, Kevin Durant et al take the most popular side of things and really set it off.

Even the video put up by Foxtrol shows there was nothing in the hold. There is contact which is allowed but the slight grab doesn't stop the receiver at all. It's hardly ever called.

Calling that is not as bad as the non-calls in the 2018 NFC championship game but it's not good either.

The officials were inconsistent throughout from letting things go like grabs and holding at the line, which favoured the Chiefs more than the Eagles but both got away with things, to ridiculous calls on catches which definitely favoured the Eagles. I agree about the Sanders catch but I disagree with both the Smith and Goedart plays. Maybe they had an angle we didn't get to see on the Smith play and if so that's fair enough but the Goedart one was definitely not a catch.

In the first quarter there's a hold on Dallas Goedart on a 3rd and 5 and no call in a very similar position as in not far down the field and on the same side as the JuJu call. On that play Smith made a catch for a first down and the defender lowered his helmet and hit Smith in the head to get him out of bounds and no call there either. A play later theres a hold on Smith but no call there either.

I could go on and on and not just on the Eagles getting held but the Chiefs too and far more egregious ones than what was called on the Bradberry Vs JuJu play.

The lack of consistency is the big issue here. And how you call something minor like that and not call similar and more clear cut ones is just beyond belief.

You say that comment about the Chiefs getting favourable calls wasn't directed at me but it seemed very clear it was.

There was nothing there to suggest you were talking about other people.

'but the idea that the Chiefs keep getting favourable calls over everyone else is gas.'

That to me seems directed at one person and that person was me and yes I was angry about that.

Lots of things seem to be ignored in posts. I said the call was a bad call on the hold but also said I didn't believe the Eagles would have succeeded in getting the tie or win if it wasn't called. I think it was a terrible way for the game to end, because of inconsistent officiating, but I never said the Chiefs would not have won. It's the way they ended up winning that's the issue for me.

If the Eagles offense had played marginally better in the second half it could have been a blowout to them. Do you see what I did there?

The latest New Heights podcast with the Kelce brothers is brilliant, well worth two hours of your time.

It makes no sense to you? The Eagles scored eleven points in the second half, if they scored the same as they scored in the first half they'd have won by ten points.

They'll both be first ballot for sure.