Couple Ordered to Demolish House - any update?

Why should someone be allowed to build a one-off house just because they previously lived in the area?

If it's appropriate to build there then anyone should be allowed. If not, no-one. And it's almost always "not".

They aren't. That is not the case anywhere in the country.

There are not “exemptions” based on local needs. They are the rules. Those rules are discriminatory. The fact they exist is the issue. Not hard to grasp.

Whether somebody is originally from the area, or not has no bearing on the planning impact or the conservation - which you claimed was the goal.

Where a person is from is not a sufficient factor. However, having lived in a location is usually a prerequisite for establishing a local need (obviously). I can't claim a "local need" to build a house on Achill Island as I've never been there, but I am sure that a person who is living there and helping their parents in their local business or farm, or even to take care of those parents in their old age, would have a plausible starting point for claiming to have a local need. Note that they would still have to prove a need. Some on here appear to be under the misapprehension that a person only needs to say "My name is Jimmy Murphy and my father went to school down the road" and they can build what they like.

If I remember correctly, the criteria in my area as an initial filter for local needs is to have lived there for 15 years. You could pass that if you moved into the area from Lagos in 2008.

Society wants to limit the number of one-off houses. But it also has to be reasonable and practical. So there has to be some exemptions. Going back to the lighthouse example, it would be very stupid if the local Council decided that it could not allow a free-for-all but that it could allow one house, and decided that instead of allowing the lighthouse operator to build the house, instead allowed a French millionaire to build a holiday home instead. If you want a more common example, a child helping their parents to run their farm has a genuine local need (note that again, it does not even guarantee permission) and it is something which society needs............unless you would prefer the country to stop producing food within the next generation.

The default position is that they will not allow one-off houses. They have exemptions to that policy for local needs. It shouldn't be hard to grasp.

If you would like to live in a rural area, you can buy an already existing house anywhere you want.

Not sure “where” you mean. But no ragrats!

Most of that is incorrect to the point of being complete nonsense. I was under the impression you worked in the industry?

A local need has no basis on conservation or good planing (what you claimed). Pointing out it exists does not justify it.

I don’t think anyone has suggested they can build what they like. If anything you the one suggesting that removing local needs results in a free for all. Nonsense stuff.

Good planning policy such as densities, land use, zoning, set-backs, vernacular design, still applies. That’s a given. Local need does not impact any of that, claiming it does pretty uninformed.

As I said, they are rules, not exemptions. Planning rules should be based on good planning policy. That’s hardly controversial.

Why would removing local requirements prevent the lighthouse operator from building a house?

Again why would the child be prevented from building a house? You seem to be suggesting that the only alternatives to local needs conditions is to prevent all housing, or allow unlimited housing. That’s a pretty clear false dichotomy, to the point of being disingenuous.

I’m well aware local needs policies exists . No idea how how you think grasping their existence is the issue. The issue is you woeful understand of what happens if they are removed.

It's not the Special Olympics - there isn't a medal for everyone. Not everyone can have everything that they want, or that they might want at some point in the future. If you want to take some particular interpretation of the word "discrimination" then you are welcome to. Feel free to take a case to the CJEU on discrimination because Elon Musk won't give you the CEO job at Twitter if you want.

BTW, we managed to get rid of the most in-bred of the locals back about 200 years ago when they were shipped off to Van Dieman's Land or similar.

The council dig through the rubbish and try to find letters or similar with a name and address on it. my sister got a fine for this despite it not being her who actually dumped the rubbish.

There are already several situations in which you will not need pp covered under exempted development.

Things like extensions and garden sheds.

Part of the reason for the more concentrated emphasis on planning enforcement is the fact that it is a responsibility for the local authority to carry out enforcement under the planning act.

Once a complaint is made the planning authority must investigate within a statutory timeframe.

ah jaysus ... they don't have a housing crisis in Japan because they are in a state of demographic collapse. They have plenty of spare houses because the people who used to live there are now dead.

Those demographics claims are suss and gradual. The only houses going empty I have heard of are in rural villages and towns where most people don't want to live, so much so that some villages are offering 'free' houses to young families.

A family memeber knows someone who returned to Japan, was given some land, submitted plans for a house, had it approved and then got Toyota to build the kit in their factory, who then transported it to the site and erected the house in 2-3 days, it being ready to be moved into, immediiately.

From arriving in Japan to moving into the house was around 12 months.

ah jaysus yourself.

Didnt they already do this with some other shocking new evidence a year or two ago? Is this their plan now going forward?

Couple who built house with no planning permission seek injunction preventing demolition over ‘new evidence’ | Independent.ie

Anyone got a better update on whats the story lately? Cant get past that Indo paywall the usual way.