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If the government called a general election tonight

  • 02-02-2023 10:23pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,014 ✭✭✭


    If the government called a general election tonight who would you vote for from the list below?

    FF

    FG

    Greens

    SF

    Labour

    SD

    PBP

    Independents

    Threadbans

    Skimpydoo

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,738 ✭✭✭✭Jim_Hodge


    Is that meant to be a poll?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 84,829 ✭✭✭✭Atlantic Dawn
    GDY151


    Needs an "Other" Party option.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,197 ✭✭✭✭elperello


    More than one of them because of the STV.

    Also that list does not include all the parties.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 195 ✭✭FoxForce5


    Enoch burke, assuming he runs as an independent.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,794 ✭✭✭Damien360


    As sad as this is to say, I would like to see a mass protest vote. A spoiled vote throughout the country. I'm not actually sure if that would be another election. I understand it's a complete waste but I can't see myself voting for any of the current crop, be they government or opposition.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,503 ✭✭✭✭Mad_maxx


    Independent, don’t know after that, the FG and FF TD,s in my constituency are utterly useless



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,521 ✭✭✭jmcc


    A spoiled vote would achieve nothing.

    Regards...jmcc



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,159 ✭✭✭deirdremf


    I suspect that there will be a lot of spoiled votes, or non-votes, by people who have always voted FFG and now feel shafted as a result of the Great Nursing Homes Robbery.

    The overall effect will be to reduce support for the current government parties (& probably Labour to some extent), and thus increase the vote sshare of the current opposition. Independents may do well out of it as well - people like Lowry have been impervious to all negative publicity down the years.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,521 ✭✭✭jmcc


    Possibly. But how will the canvassers for FFG/Lab look the voters in the eyes and ask for votes. The thing to watch would be how many FFG TDs decide to go independent to save their political careers. It is the only honourable path for most of them not directly involved. Watching the performance of that creep Martin in the Dail brought home the fact that FF had betrayed its older voters and the disabled.

    Regards...jmcc



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,159 ✭✭✭deirdremf


    I guess that every TD who is long enough in the Dáil will have had cases on their hands and have told their constituents that "I'll do everything in my power to see you right".

    Individual stories will get around such as "it's 5 years since that FFGucker XX told Johnny and Mary down the road that they'd get their money back, but they haven't had a smell of it". I think for most of them the independent route will not save their seat this time round.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,521 ✭✭✭jmcc


    This could be the GE that changes everything and destroys FF/FG/Greens/Labour. I think that there's a poll due this weekend. It will be interesting to see if there's any major movement for FF/FG/Greens. Voters are angry enough to use their votes to destroy the political careers of politicians and it should be something that should worry the politicians.

    Regards...jmcc



  • Posts: 88 ✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Can't wait for my magic money tree grown from a clipping from the main one at Leinster House when the shinners and PBP get in €€€ I hear they only grow 50's!!!!! /rubs hands together



  • Moderators, Education Moderators Posts: 2,610 Mod ✭✭✭✭horgan_p


    At least when the shinners rob you they do it to your face.

    this current crowd dip their hands in your pockets when you aren’t looking.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 807 ✭✭✭French Toast


    Sinn Fein probably. For no reason other than fúck FG/FF.

    Are SF any better? Probably not.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,662 ✭✭✭✭road_high


    I’ll be voting for none of the mainstream parties- FF FG lab SF PBP Greens SD etc all the same woke politically correct nauseating rubbish.

    So hopefully some common sense Independents emerge or tbh will be looking at the right wing supposedly fringe parties - couldn’t care less anymore if that makes me racist fascist and everything else our woke social “betters” label us via their media script readers.

    Im tired of the Irish being treated like garbage in our own country- eye watering taxes in return for non existent services. While billions are squandered on ungrateful “refugees” put up in hotels all at our expense. Time has come to say enough



  • Posts: 2,725 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Smell of desperation off this tbh.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,662 ✭✭✭✭road_high


    I think they are worse. At least with FG there’s a faint hope of some economic sense- though I agree that’s mainly to the benefit of their own cronies and a few crumbs for the peasants



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,014 ✭✭✭skimpydoo




  • Moderators, Education Moderators Posts: 2,610 Mod ✭✭✭✭horgan_p


    Unfortunately I think the next election is Sinn Féin’s to lose.

    id love to see a not crazy party of the left running candidates around the country.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,521 ✭✭✭jmcc


    There does seem to be some fear and panic among FFGers on Social Media. Even some of their usual defenders in the media seem to be becoming born again journalists rather than government press release recyclers. One FGer (Kehoe/Wexford) was apparently complaining about other FGers claiming that he was not going to run in the next GE.

    Regards...jmcc

    Post edited by jmcc on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,014 ✭✭✭skimpydoo


    That's a good thing to see. It show's they know how screwed the current government is.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,521 ✭✭✭jmcc


    Yep. For all the talk about the government majority, a few FFGers eager to save their seats could bring it all crashing down. What else is about to come out about the activities of FFG/Lab? And the one thing that really seems to have them scared: when will the first MNoC be proposed?

    Regards...jmcc



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 560 ✭✭✭Dr Karl


    Isn't the editor of the Irish Daily Mail Group married to a Government TD or Senator.

    Also wasn't the Ireland editor of Mediahuis married to a Senator. Was he also the editor of the Irish Independent at one stage?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 550 ✭✭✭fran38


    There should be ' I love this' button on boards ❤️



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,195 ✭✭✭✭jmayo


    I would actually vote for him because if he said he was going to do something he fooking well would.,


    I would hope that all politicians in the Dail be harried throughout the campaign.

    They are wrecking the country so they deserve no leeway.

    Fook the lot of them.

    Not one of them in the dail has come out against the lunacy so not one of them deserves respect or indeed peace.

    Make it the campaign from hell.

    I am not allowed discuss …



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,732 ✭✭✭✭Larbre34


    This is some absolutely pointless nonsense. Completely unscientific and unrepresentative and couldn't reflect PR anyway.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 690 ✭✭✭steinbock123


    Definitely not the Greens anyway. . . . . .



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,732 ✭✭✭✭Larbre34


    Of course they aren't wrecking the Country ffs.

    Give your head a wobble.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,521 ✭✭✭jmcc


    The media and politics is very interconnected. It can be hard keeping track. The Sindo/Indo used to be very pro-FG. The Sindo used to be almost a weekly rant against SF but after Barbara J. Pym (AKA Eoghan Harris) was fired, the management decided to try repositioning the newspaper towards the centre of the market and toned down some of the anti-SF stuff. Bertie Ahern made Harris a senator though he was not reappointed.

    Regards...jmcc



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,373 ✭✭✭✭Sleepy


    I can't see any major change in the event of an election... SF will still be screeching from the ditch while FF/FG (who may well need Lab/Greens/SDs or similar to make up the numbers) continue to govern.

    In the absence of an overall majority, which they'll never have, SF are always going to be an opposition party. TBH, voting for them is as good as spoiling your ballot, at least if you voted Labour or SD's there's a chance of them being a junior coalition partner and managing to get a few leftist policies into the programme for government,



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,251 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    You don’t have just one vote.


    i totally get people looking for a FF/FG alternative, i really do… and Labour/Greens are about as useful a premise as throwing fish at a dartboard

    considering the outright contempt that SF have consistently shown over decades for democracy, for the law, for life, for the will of the majority of people… a leopard doesn’t change its spots… it just now has a better PR machine and slightly less baggage at the top.

    SF get in, they won’t have the back of Irish citizens, their first loyalty is to their narrow stubborn backwater ideals and supporters.

    i say this most seriously, IF they get in, do people believe they’ll be satisfied to be beholden to democratic principles and the laws of our country ?

    because I don’t believe for a millisecond they will…. They’ve shown nothing but contempt for law, for democracy and by proxy contempt for the citizens of Ireland.

    Adrian Crevan Macken, who murdered Garda Tony Golden, actually who shot him in the back and then shot his own girlfriend…. was a member of Sinn Fein, in the IRA too….

    SF were not very vociferous in condemning him, killing a Garda and shooting his girlfriend…

    says ALL you require to know as to their relationship with democracy.

    probably couldn’t vote them out, they’d just not facilitate an election or at least an unrigged one…



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,458 ✭✭✭Zico


    Always beware of the "well things couldn't get any worse" cohort. There were quiet lot of them who voted for Brexit.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,738 ✭✭✭✭Jim_Hodge


    I've no affiliation with any particular party. It would depend on a combination of policies and, very importantly, who the candidates are in my constituency.

    PR means it's more than a single choice too.

    As for those talking about protest or spoiled votes, most of them don't vote anyway.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,493 ✭✭✭Padre_Pio


    Beware of the "sure it'll be worse under Sinn Fein"

    Who has been in government for the past 80 years?

    Not Sinn Fein.


    Haughey, Bertie, Cowen, Inda, Leo, Meehole..



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    You'd think some isolationist MAGA far right party would get into power from reading boards over the past few years



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,197 ✭✭✭✭elperello


    Boards posters predictions are just their own opinions.

    Predictions are interesting but only that.

    This started out as some sort of a poll on who would you vote for.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,662 ✭✭✭✭road_high


    Tbh I think SF would sh1t themselves if put into government- all the self created problems of government are only growing- no wonder they are cosying up to FF for cover. Let SF govern on their own. Their fanatics think they’re so wonderful- I’d give them 12 months tops. Mary Lou doesn’t have the bottle for real government. She is Tanaiste material at a push and she is the “best” of an extremely talentless, dim team



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,332 ✭✭✭✭Loafing Oaf


    A strong possibility but the numbers will be very tight. SF/FF in some form looks the likeliest outcome to me



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,738 ✭✭✭✭Jim_Hodge


    The Boards polls at election times have usually be very wide of the mark.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,662 ✭✭✭✭road_high


    It’s so interesting how many are now “retiring” at fairly young ages- they are taking the money and running and easing themselves into cushy roles like that prat Brian Hayes where their connections can be cashed in on.

    All the heart warming stories about “spending more time with family” are being wheeled out early- anyone with two brain cells to rub together knows the real reason.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 296 ✭✭Ham_Sandwich


    Sinn Fein are the right party for the job, houses, health education we'll be looked after if we sort them out in the election



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,197 ✭✭✭✭elperello


    It's not the fault of the platform.

    It's just what you get with a self selecting group.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,666 ✭✭✭✭ELM327


    Vote 1 - FG

    Vote 2 - FF

    Vote 3-> end, everyone except SF & Greens. Basically using my vote as intended, to ensure that my vote is counted against SF and against the Greens



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,037 ✭✭✭griffin100


    SF have been in government in NI for years now. What positive progressive thing have they done there? True it's not their fault that the current setup is dead, but they did kill the last assembly when it didn't suit them.

    It's pretty depressing really for someone like me who will never vote SF, and who would be seen as a traditional FG voter. The current government have been abysmal. Think about it, how bad do you have to be to end up with multiple anti immigration protests on an almost daily basis in a country that has been to date fairly ambivalent about immigration. There is also a concentration on issues that don't really matter to the vast majority of people but are on trend to the detriment of real issues. You then have absolute chancers like Harris, O'Gorman, Ryan and McEntee in government making an absolute balls of their portfolio.

    The more I think about it the more I think surely it can't get any worse with SF in power, and then I remember that that type of thinking gave rise to Brexit and Trump in power. The one hope is that SF don't get a majority at the next GE, otherwise we really are fcuked. I even think a FF/SF coalition might be ok, but that's really a reflection of how bad the current set up is. Let's face it, would you really want David Cullinane as Minister for Health and intellectual heavyweights like Kathleen Funchion in the cabinet? TBH if I wasn't so old I'd seriously consider if I wanted to stay in this country.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,396 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    SF have been in government in NI for years now.

    You could have put 30 of the greatest politicians and political minds from the past 100 years up there and it wouldn't met a jot of difference, it's just several bigoted brick walls.



  • Administrators Posts: 54,474 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭awec


    It's not to do with cover, they just have no choice.

    SF are cosying up to FF because they have realised that they have absolutely no path to government that does not include FF. They have no chance of governing on their own, they will definitely not get enough votes for that. The last time Ireland had a single party government was what, FF in the 70s?

    SF + FF is the only workable, stable solution for them.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,339 ✭✭✭HalloweenJack


    Considering that FF and FG have run the country since independence, the long-term infrastructure issues (housing, healthcare, transport) can be entirely blamed on them, either directly or indirectly.

    I have no time for SF but I would be glad to see someone else have a go at running the country. I don't see SF being able to undo all this mess and I don't trust them to do anything terribly innovative but we have definitely reached the time for an alternative. The last few years have confirmed what many already knew: that FF and FG are essentially the same thing.

    Give someone else a go. I was originally a Labour voter but they've also descended into a mess. I'd probably vote SD or Green if I could (I don't live in Ireland).

    I wouldn't be particularly happy about SF leading the government and I wouldn't have much expectations for them but I'd glaldly take a government that had no FF or FG involvement for once.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,872 ✭✭✭knucklehead6


    Unfortunately i have no doubt that SF will get in at the next election. The only reason they're not in there now is that they didn't run enough candidates at the last one.

    They will probably last the full term too, because they will be blaming everything on the last government and there will be enough people with the attitude of "give them a chance" like they're letting their kids take the family car out for a drive....



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