Time for a zero refugee policy? - *Read OP for mod warnings and threadbans - updated 11/5/24*

Are you suggesting that driving cars at protestors is something people shouldn't take an interest in?

Agreed. Could be some poor schmuck who just spent 12 hours in the office eating $hit from his boss, trying to get home to watch the match.

Gets stuck behind that rabble and just said **** this I'm not doing a uturn!

If the drivers an immigrant tho all bets are off 🤣

The video says he was driving on the wrong side of the road.

Not sure if it's true but if it is then it was done deliberately.

The media, especially RTE and of course the government tried to discredit the anti immigrant protesters as far right loonies. A recent poll by a certain newspaper proved otherwise. The fact is that the vast majority of protesters are ordinary folk with genuine concerns and are being ignored. Even Leo Varadaker is late in day changing his tune. Some years ago he, seeking attention and trying to be best boy in the class, stood up at an EU meeting in which migrants crossing the Mediterranean was discussed, and gave a commitment that Ireland would send one of our navy ships to the Mediterranean to pick up African migrants. These migrants were literally dumped on Italy and made their was to France and eventually to UK and Ireland. The lap dog Leo was so eager to please that it never dawned on him that other EU countries surrounding the Med did not offer to help these people smugglers for a very good reason.

I'm actually living in the middle of a working class part of Dublin, surrounded by working class people. But I also don't see any sign of Ukrainian people living near me and there must be a good 30,000 people living in the area. I would still say that much of the outrage over the issue is a manufactured outrage. For sure, people in Ireland are entitled to have strong opinions about the state taking in 75,000 Ukrainian people in the space of a year, but there are clearly many opportunists in the online anti-immigration and anti-refugee lobby trying to hijack the issue and turn it into a rallying point for their brand of right wing politics.

Just for those challenged in reading comprehension. This is not saying 180,000 more refugees this year. Its says to the end of 2022 there was 90k total seeking refuge in the system including 50k Ukrainians. This was not just from 2022 but also included those here previously. It also says "up to twice that by end of 2023". So that includes the 90k already counted, doesn't discount those who leave in the interim and doesn't provide any data to back up the estimate for 2023. The headline implies 180k this year. The article doesn't say that though. When the major war on the continent ends this number will drop back to sustainable levels.

But of course, the country with one of the lowest population densities and highest wealth in the EU is full by all accounts.

Protest the lack of housing spend, not the humans fleeing war

I agree with you that I don't think there is a huge depth of outrage over it. It's not something I hear from people day to day.

Of course you wouldn't notice a bunch of Ukrainians in an area of 30,000. But there are small towns now where they are building special estates for Ukrainians which will see double digit % population growth in these places overnight. Those places will notice. And in my experience those places aren't objecting to the Ukrainians just concerned about impacts on services and what happens on those sites long term.

Apparently gone are the days (2005?) a contractor would pick a foreigner kid (me) up in the driveway and pay him cash in hand to work a job site or three hey?

Have you seen the state of tiger properties now?

Thanks, I suppose.

It's the European way. I remember stories years ago about them dumping a few hundred "refugees" in German villages with tiny populations. Imagine that, a nice small community where you know everyone and live in relative safety one day, the next day your community is not your own anymore because you've been outnumbered by hundreds of foreign men who share few cultural similarities with you.

Murphy organizing this coming Saturday. No solutions to the housing shortage

Anyone cheering this on and not opening their own home is a hypocrite and that includes our deluded politicians.

Donegal in particular is madness, seeing as they likely have the highest ratio of people who move to other counties and countries for work. Even if you believe that they are all here looking for jobs, Donegal is not the place that they'll find them.

It's easier to understand simple things than not understand them, so this stuff must be taking its toll on you, because nearly all of those "online guys" have said over and over that the problem is largely the people abusing the system, which most Ukrainians aren't. Those people in Kerry also knew that those Ukrainians were being replaced by the abusers of the system, and I wouldn't be one bit surprised if that was a part of the motivation. Even some of the Ukrainians didn't feel comfortable living among them, yet of course you'll ignore that.

"While the 1988 Act does not impose a duty on housing authorities to provide housing to people who are homeless, it does clearly give responsibility to the local authorities to consider their needs and expand their powers to respond to those needs. Specifically authorities may house homeless people from their own housing stock or through arrangement with a voluntary body. The Act also enables the local authority to provide a homeless person with money to source accommodation in the private sector."

" (2) A person who is unable to provide shelter and maintenance for himself or his dependants shall, for the purposes of this section, be eligible for institutional assistance."

Know your rights!