Are Mick Wallace and Clare Daly Irelands greatest shame?

I am surprised that this issue hasn't made headlines on this site. Either our friend is completely deluded about his financial situation or he made incorrect declarations to the Dail and European Parliament while simultaneously making a mockery of the bankruptcy laws.

Paschal's two men and a van is small beer compared to this vat of wine.

That's so well said. He is an apologist for the most despicable regimes, just to maintain a bit of profile.

The European elections of 2024 cannot arrive soon enough. Wallace and Daly should have a spotlight pointed at them so strong that it ignites the remnants of their time in politics.

Yes.

Have the pair of them actually tried to get any of all their diplomacy talks started instead of just mouthing on about why you should talk to murdering tyrants like Putin etc .I think the answer is a big no .

Ah God no, they may be Ireland's greatest political embarrassment of the current era, but they aren't the most despised politicians in Western Europe, as they simply aren't well enough known for that.

You're talking about the likes of LePen, Melenchon, Farage, Johnson, Wilders, Salvini, Kaczynski et al, to be the most despicable characters of this era.

I don't know much about Mick Wallace but thinking about Claire Daly - she's in a difficult position.

In the European Parliament you gotta be part of a wider group. The conservatives have their group and so do all the (alleged) social democrats / labours and so do the liberals etc. I don't know if she is part of any group, She's either independent or maybe member of some pretty left fringe group. I assume in the European Parliament there are independents too.

Anyway all the big groups are singing the Ukraine hymn sheet like from a single mouth.

Whatever she's member of or not she's going to be like an almost lone voice out there. I know there are a few others from different countries but they're up against everyone else and they're small. They have no power to make legislative moves or anything. All thats left to them is the lone warning voice.

The mad thing is the harshness of the reaction of the establishment towards what she has to say. They want to discredit her, disrepute her, ideally ban her away or something. They're so afraid of even the tiniest amount of dissent to their fancy patriot games they go all out like a bitten fury.

That usually happens when your own case is so weak you can't afford any debate at all cos you'll be so obviously destroyed before any debate barely started. But thats no good to her being outnumbered 1 to 50 or something.

I have great respect for her.

But the thing is it's not. It couldn't possibly be. It's a just cause I don't care what anyone says. How could calling for cease fire now and talks be 'utterly repugnant and hypocritical'? And calls for more arms be a good thing? Like how the f*** could it possibly be? It can only be in a distorted propagandized world.

The Ukrainian government would have ceased to exist.

On the plus side there'd be a few hundred thousand men still alive or with all their limbs, a good few cities upright that aren't now, a few million refugees at home who are now here there and everywhere. Ukraine would be bust but intact.

When this is over they're going to be double or treble bust and in rubble. Less a few million refugees and a few hundred thousand men shot to bits. And Russia will get her will anyway.

But yay we all defended Ukraine's sovereignty.

But that strategy will flatten more towns and cities. And will cost more lives. And yet we sell our weapons with the slogan they save lives. Can't you see how mental those messages in the light of reality are? How can you all fall for that?

So don't stand up to a bully and let them have whatever they want? Do you think Putin will simply stop if handed Ukraine without a fight? Did he stop after Chechnya? After Georgia? After Crimea?

Sick at the thought of voting against Russia?