Ukraine (Mod Note & Threadbanned Users in OP)

@Run Forest Run Propaganda relies on these types of ill-informed people.

Your post explained in one simple sentence.

But as we all know Russia is loosing and loosing badly, meanwhile ukraine are getting stronger and more prepared for the counter offensive against the poorly trained and equipped Russian conscripts thousands of dead Russians every single month and nothing to show for it,

World War 2 losses in 11 months and getting worse , even the Wagner forces are in dire straights after the Russian military cut them off recently ....

Their running out of excuses the last hope is Belarus , imagine that

In commercial business there is a phrase that’s used now and again when certain situations arise ie ‘that’s commercially sensitive information’ and we are not putting it out there in case it’s to our competitors advantage. I assume that the same strategy applies when it comes to war. Also each side tries to put ‘its best foot forward’ which is the case here to gain any advantage going eg false flags, false figures, misinformation , half truths, etc, etc, etc.

Were we told that? Have you a source?

If early spring hasn't actually happened yet, how could you expect them to have landed a knockout blow already???

Your post doesn't make any sense and is highly dubious.

There are also citizens in this part of the world gullible enough to fall for any Russian propaganda cues, and repeat them on social media, with the intention of undermining Western support for Ukraine. Even some of our MEPs.

Yep, it was all over the news at the back end of last year. All sorts of "experts" saying they are very close to victory.

And of course, so many naive people believed them.

Here's one such interview I remember reading. I wouldn't be surprised if people tried to wipe this talk from their collective memories...

Btw, where did I say spring had already happened? I very clearly stated that they do not look close to any sort of decisive victory in this war, and spring is fast approaching. It's looking like a completely ridiculous prediction.

You would wonder what the political ramifications could be for the continued western support of this war? Are the Ukrainian's ego writing cheques, their body can't cash?

The Ukrainians aren't going to say "we are going to lose this war by Spring". They set optimistic goals to keep morale up, everyone knows this. It's not a business contract, there are no "concrete assurances", it could drag on for years.

People are supporting Ukraine's defense, don't conflate that with support for the war. The is a war of choice, 100% instigated by Putin, who can end it at any time.

You said "Well early spring is fast approaching, and they do not look like they're anywhere close to landing a knockout blow." A completely ridiculous prediction? No, just a deliberate confusion of timelines by you.

Spring hasn't happened yet, lasts for months but yet you are already drawing conclusions about the lack of knockout blows...

You've gone from:

end this war roughly around the early spring of this year.

To what your cited article says:

"my feeling is that by the end of the spring, this war will be over."

You can't keep your story straight because it is based on Russian lies.

There's a con job on the gullible being perpetrated and attempted here alright.

If Crimea remains 'Russian' that has to come with some caveats... demilitarised except for the naval base or even no naval base. It shouldn't be usable as a launchpad for attacks on Ukraine, interfering with their shipping or for claiming previously Ukrainian marine resources.

You have been corrected on timelines. The article you cited contradicted your timelines and still you double down on your falsehood. Nothing pedantic about it. A lot can happen militarily in three months of Spring and the last few months there has been a lull due to the winter.

A literal tsunami? This is hyperbole and nonsense. You are throwing out words and phrases here without comprehension.

Strange how you are concerned about Ukrainian propaganda yet not a word about the level of propaganda Russia has been deploying towards the West for the last 10 years, funding groups in Europe.

And by strange, I mean blatantly and obviously revealing your pro-Russian position.

The lack or grasp of reality in this post is staggering. One of Zelensky's many responsibilities as a leader during war-time is to keep morale up. Part of that is to set optimistic goals. Contrary to analyst predictions the Ukrainians survived more than a few weeks during the initial blitzed invasion, not only that but they pushed Russia back last year (which is extraordinary in itself considering the massive imbalance in militaries)

Now Ukraine have set themselves more lofty ambitions and goals in the war. Likewise, a majority of people who support Ukraine's defense, have high hopes for Ukraine to push back Russia. Whether they succeed in these goals is up to a thousand factors inside and outside their control.

You're taking it like it's a literal "schedule", and shrieking "scam" if it isn't met. It's like claiming everyone was "hoodwinked" in a football game because the manager was optimistic about being a win.

Really stupid stuff.

The "Russian spring offensive" has been ongoing for 3 weeks at this stage (and is not going well- as evidenced by the fact that many are unaware it if happening at all). Various commentators refer to it:

I wonder how that journey (10 hours in a train it seems) was made relatively secure?

Also what was said in the message to Moscow immediately prior to departure?

Putins speech could be easily mistaken for hitler, now that he has also pulled out of the nukes treaty he has really pushed the world closer to a disaster.

The sooner they lose bitterly in Ukraine the better.