Time for a zero refugee policy? - *Read OP for mod warnings and threadbans - updated 11/5/24*

I don't know to be honest. But you could get leave to remain like (I think) Khambule.

We don't really do forceable deportations..

And besides once they are in and organised, they can just leave and become "undocumented"

Those places have infrastructure also. And less of it.

it takes small amounts of population growth to break the infrastructure in small places.

I dont know the areas well enough to comment on whats happening on the ground and so I wont try to paint a picture, but the concept of immigration impacting small localities is real.

We probably need to remember that the numbers so far are exactly that. The numbers so far.

This war is going on for a few years yet in all probability.

65k Ukranians immgrating last year, maybe same again this year, maybe same again next year.

Then there is another war in Africa in 2025 and the cycle of immigration starts again.

A predecent is now set and the previous response to war or drought or famine which was to primarily send foreign aid isnt sufficient anymore.

We must house X amount of Africans fleeing war because we did it for the Ukranians 5 years ago.

So if you dont do it now for the Africans then you must be racist.

And wouldnt they have a point?

If we accept limiltess numbers of white european asylum seekers then we should do the same for black african people fleeing the same desctruction.

So, where does it end?

It should be ok to ask those questions and debate them.

The points above are just a handful of topics that the govt should be engaging with the public on.

Not turning their face away and shouting racist.

Have the government asked any of their mates at the vulture funds if they have any spare rooms going?

Being housed in hotels and any other form of accom still places a strain on infrastructure.

Children still need to go to school, people need to visit doctors and dentists etc. So there is an impact on the local population. Again its something that people should be able to talk about.

Asylum seekers numbered over 13k in 2022 which is a record number and there could always be another war or disaster in an EU state. So a precedent has been set. Ireland has never taken in this volume of immigrants under Asylum or Refugee status in a single year.

But i agree. these things need to be talked about and plans put into place for the long term to manage these kinds of humanitarian disasters.

Im not sure at which point the govt will decide to engage with its public though.

Our "Open Door" policy has reached far and wide-

Nope

Almost no-one, outside of corporate interests and the NGO complex, is in favour of mass immigration.

Added to those two groups are the fools who have been brainwashed by them into believing that by supporting ruthless capitalism they are resisting a fabricated "Far Right".

No party runs on a platform of mass immigration.

The electorate votes against it on the rare opportunities it has to do so.

Mass immigration is, and always has been, deeply unpopular among the native populations of Europe.

Are you going yourself?

Listening to Boyd Barrett is more of a standard anti government march with we hate racism sprinkled on top

Paid to be there? 😅

There is also the Swiss model which has the following:

"Declaration of the nullity of naturalisation where false information has been given or material facts have been concealed

If a person provides false information or conceals important facts in the naturalisation procedure, they run the risk that their naturalisation will be declared null and void. This is possible for up to eight years after naturalisation."

So as you can see there is European precedent for dealing with false asylum claims.

Don't they too have a system where locals need to approve of a person looking for citizenship? As in, the person would live in an area on what's essentially a trial period, and if they behaved well they'd be accepted, if they didn't they wouldn't.

Just like Ireland though, they've an NGO class trying to burn it all to the ground.