Time for a zero refugee policy? - *Read OP for mod warnings - updated 11/5/24*

Why have no official community groups expressed these concerns?

Why have groups like east wall for all dwarfed the east wall says no group?

We've been taking in refugees since the early 90s, why do we not have a disproportionate amount of them in prison for assaulting women?

Why did finglas say no basically disappear when the 2 migrant rapists turned out to be a white lad?

I see we've looped back around to caring about women but only when " de dirty fordiners" are the one's theatening them.

Well, thanks for not answering any of my questions.

Got sent a photo of one of protesters out yesterday from neighbour. Guy in photo owns a place housing refugees making a fortune (same town i grew up). Same guy screwed his own family for land and that's just tip of iceberg

I would march too if I was getting thousands a week.

Pity we aint trying help geniune people fleeing wars. Rather helping fill people's pockets.

I would suggest the anti-refugee narrative will never become the norm or the majority. Ireland has never been a right wing country (one reason is because of its relationship with Britain and history of being colonised). It was definitely socially conservative in the 20th century with some right wing elements to it, but that is a different thing. The anti-refugee guys are trying to take on board popular hard right narratives and ideas from countries who have been traditionally right wing and conservative and then transplant them into an Irish setting, but it's just not going to work. The main party that is seen as the most radical and anti-establishment in the Dáil (SF) is left wing and pro-immigration, which shows what the protest guys are up against.

Do you support illegal immigrants from countries with backwards views towards women and where sexual assault is more frequent than ireland.

Allowing these illegals into Ireland increases risk for irish women.

If your answer is yes then we can agree you care more about illegal immigrants than the safety of women.

A simple yes or no will do.

Immigration will never stop. The amount of economic migrants will only increase. Due to climate change, many many more people will be forced to flee their countries. They will be forced to go, they really will have no choice. People need to accept that before deciding what to do about it.

What's the benefit of allowing a complete free for all, and how do we support it?

Also Sweden did this and it has backfired spectacularly. Why should we follow the same line of thinking?

You are only going to get the most hardened people who don't care about their reputation at anti migration protests because the media have painted those with concerns as racists. No one reasonable wants to be called that.

The real feelings of people going forward will be expressed in polls and at the ballot box. Up to now, groups that have failed at elections may now start to see progress and some success. Especially if a party with a respectable face emerges, which I suspect will.

You have to be on some kind of wind up?

Love conquer hate?

A convicted Murderer, A Fundraiser for the Provos and others with murderous terrorism connections on a stage to lecture us on how we must do better.

Cringefest.

How dare an NGO founded for refugee civil rights help refugees defend their civil rights. The Irish govt should be ashamed of themselves for being duped into finding an Irish refugee civil rights group that actually supports that mission.

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That's simply because no alternative credible politicians exist yet. The political system has even been self congratulatory in recent weeks in how they have all sung from the same hymn sheet on this for years.

If a political party espousing control rather than hate emerges - maybe something like the PD's or an Aontu that is non religious, they may do reasonably well. And even then it's at least two electoral cycles away before they become a threat to the big parties.

Can you provide that list of NGOs? Genuinely interested.

No, I'm going to point out that the government were happy to clap themselves on the back while making no effort to integrate the people who arrived. They built high rise ghettos with absolutely minimal investment and just left them there, cops were basically told it was a no go area.

Despite all that, there's been no verified proof that there's been a spike in immigrant crime (crime was actually down in Malmo a few years ago)

If you treat people like animals and lock them in a cage, you don't get the moral high ground.

Even the current government admit they haven't done enough to help integrate immigrants, you've ninja edited to include an article supporting that.....

But I have no faith in the Irish government learning from somewhere elses mistakes. (Or indeed their own)

Maybe that elderly woman has been helping refugees out since the end of WW2? You don’t know?

No I didn't really. They will come regardless. How they are managed is another thing entirely.

What does the defense budget do with anything? Ireland is not under any military threat. And defunding health and education NGOs just for a new set of old fighter jets from Europe or the US will do what exactly? You gonna shoot down a plane if the fighter pilot sees a lad rip up his passport in the toilet?

• “MASI is not funded; we depend on our own resources and raise our own funds as we can.”

can you fact check the other 2 for me and confirm they at least take taxpayer funds? 😶

https://www.masi.ie/about-us/